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Written with a beginning on the Fifth Day,

the 25^th day of month #4, Tammuz 25

in the 5930^th year, more or less, following the beginning recorded in Genesis 1

and in the 2026^th year following the beginning recorded in Luke 1:26-33

[Thursday, the 4th day of the week, July 8 in the 2010^th year of Caesar Tiberius

(per current Gregorian reckoning in Europe and elsewhere.)]

Dear Toby, my Brother in Daniel’s Messiah and my old time Friend,

Thank you ever so much for sharing with me and others, most especially those discoveries of yours, that the Lord of Lords has blessed you with, re the Book of Daniel, chapter 11, and re it prime focus upon the era of Caesar Tiberius, which era truly began on June 26, 1 BCE and which era is still alive and well today, that is, under the various names of each our State, and each our Country, and under that which we know of as the One World Government! That realization is indeed – or should be - a most important one for each and all amongst us! Or else how would we know how to properly recognize who we are, not only in the eyes of the “authorities,” that we are each and together creating for ourselves, but, and in recognition of the freedom to covenant as given man from the very beginning (Genesis 2:16-17,) also in the eyes of our Maker! You do see and understand a bit of the important ramifications of that realization, do you not?

So you see, the particular species of pound that the Lord, our Creator, has blessed you with, that is, per the parable recorded in Luke 19:11-27, is a mighty valuable pound for you to trade and work with!

. . . . . . .

I do wish that our dialog was a two way dialog both ways, such that not only would I carefully study, consider, and respond to your Newsletters, but that you’d do likewise with the feedback I share with you. Yet, I realize that perhaps you have too much of a following and too many people responding and commenting to your Newsletters in order to be able to take of your valuable time to do so with each and all. Or else, is it that there are all too many other of the daily burdens of life that is occupying your time? No doubt the latter is part of it, as it must necessarily be for each and all, yet I do hope that it isn’t the proverbial treadmill of Babylonian life that’s keeping you captive, but that it is rather, as I believe is true to a very high degree with you and your life, those higher values and much more meaningful pursuits given you daily by none less than the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the Creator of all. Thus, who am I to expect that the Lord of Lords would commission you to carry on a lengthy and time consuming dialog with me re matters that are perhaps beyond your area of interest and outside the commission laid before you by our Maker?

None the less, it is not for me, not for my benefit, that I’d wish as above said, but for you and for the benefit of the quality of the messages and the Newsletters that you are sharing with me and with all of us. At times I, myself, am being blessed by our Maker with such among His People as are ready, willing, and prepared to carry on such a two-way dialog as above suggested. Indeed, only recently I received a mail out of the blue from one certain Ann O’Maly re one of my web pages that I’d posted some years ago and which needed some revisions and corrections. It became obvious to me, upon a close study of the particulars pointed out by Ann re my former limited study of that Babylonian clay tablet from Nebuchadnezzar’s 37^th year, that there were many more things for me to learn and understand before being able to correctly apply the celestial observations recorded upon that clay tablet upon the celestial sky of my astro-software and upon the sky as it was in real time, then and there in 568/567 BCE…

If you wish, you may now experience for yourself the many added blessings and particulars available in consequence of that ongoing dialog between Ann O’Maly and myself. You’ll find my revised study of that Babylonian clay tablet, VAT 4956, under this link to a web page of mine that should by now be quite familiar to you…? Or, is it?

.......

My Comments below as before…

Shalom, and may the peace of God rest upon each of us as we walk securely into the unknown… Hand in hand with one another, while involved in a dialog such as is being portrayed to us by those two cherubs within the most Holy section of the Tabernacle and where none less than our Creator and God, our Maker and Savior, Daniel’s Messiah, is placing Himself in our midst,

Gunnar Anders Smårs Jr ©

PS. Re the very real blessings of such “a two way dialog both ways” as I’m experiencing in my dialog with Ann O’Maly: You see, as I’m being cleansed from my prior misconceptions and errors, my mind is being, not only enlightened, but lightened, that is, relieved from the excess burden of trash that is holding me back, tying me down, blinding me from seeing much grander vistas and from seeing and learning to use much more powerful tools of observation than I ever experienced before re the particulars of my present pursuit. I cannot speak for Ann O’Maly, but I would be surprised if she too is not experiencing some things, such as for her are most valuable blessings from our Creator, the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords!

My very real wish is that you too, Toby, would be willing and motivated to accept similar blessings as I am, that is, such that you too would be ever better suited to make safe and rapid progress along the journey you are pursuing – most especially re your pursuit of an ever more perfected understanding of the Book of Daniel, and naturally, of all of the books within the Holy Writ! Well, I know you are you are receiving such blessings already, but from my point of view, I have no doubt whatsoever but that there is ever so much more that you could gain by accepting and applying, in your own studies and in your own teaching, also the very clear and distinct lessons available to you via all that which the Lord of Hosts has permitted me to discover and to share with you and others…

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Dear friends,

Here comes the 15th newsletter that covers Daniel 11. I pray that you will be blessed and that Christ will be lifted up! For newcomers, please go to my website: www.TobyJoreteg.com and click on "Articles" and you will find the previous newsletters.

Your brother in Christ,

Toby Joreteg MD, PhD
www.TobyJoreteg.com

Newsletter #15

Emperors in Daniel 11

Background

It is interesting to notice that we need all three chapters, Daniel 10, 11 and 12, to fully understand this last and important vision. These chapters each add their own piece of information to the picture. Daniel 10 gives the focus, the background information and circumstances for this vision. Daniel 11 gives us the specifics to know the timing for the fulfillment of the prophecy by giving us details about the emperors, mostly the one who reigned during this time. Only when we have this information in Daniel 10 and 11, can we fully appreciate the message given in Daniel 12.

It is amazing that God gave this information to His faithful believers, more than 500 years before it was fulfilled…

[ - Toby, re your words “it was fulfilled,” that is, something completed and in past tense, tends to convey to me the message and the idea that that prophecy was directed merely to those people then and there, two millennia ago, and not to me. That is, other than to impress me that God is able to foretell the future.

[ - Re this particular prophecy at least, and re most of the prophecies in the Book of Daniel, I am convinced that the much more important aspect of those prophecies, is that they are primarily directed to each of us, regardless of what time period it happens to be in the present now. Indeed, much the same as for the First Angel’s Message. That is, given that we are still, most of us, living at a time and in a situation where we are indeed within the law and jurisdiction of Rome, the Vatican, and, yes indeed, Caesar Tiberius, the one being described in Daniel, chapter 11…

[ - I find it of utmost importance that we each do our part in not diminishing the weightier part of the message, that which is in it for you and me, in favor of that which is merely of historical and theoretical value. Or don’t you agree with that?]

Unless clearly stated the whole prophecy in Daniel 10-12 will be kept as one unit. The most common mistake with interpretations of this prophecy, and any other prophecy for that matter, is to cut it in pieces and then place some pieces here and some pieces there. If that is what the text tells us to do, we certainly will do so, otherwise we will make every effort to keep it together.

I, Even I

The Man Dressed in Linen continues to speak and in the first verse of Daniel 11 he says something astonishing. Well, it is only astonishing if we have a wrong concept of who the “speaker” in this vision is, Daniel 11:1:

Also in the first year of Darius the Mede, I, even I, stood up to confirm and strengthen him. (NKJV)

[ - For the record: The 1^st year of Cyrus king of Persia as referenced by Daniel corresponds to the lunar year beginning Tishri 22, 534 BCE. For details please press the link!]

In Daniel 11:1 the word “I” is written twice. If this is an angel speaking, it is quite a boastful one; an angel that truly wants to emphasize his own importance. But if this is spoken by Christ, it is very appropriate.

[ - This morning when I opened up my Bible, my eyes first fell upon Luke 7:28:

[ Luke 7:28 KJV For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

[ - I’ve long been wondering about what Jesus may have intended to tell us with those words, but this morning the real meaning of those words seemed quite clear to me. That is, it has become clear to me that Jesus had somehow learned and accepted God’s offer of coming out of Babylon, and all the States, past and present, represented by the word ‘Babylon’ (cf. Rev 18:4.) Most people had not done so at that time, and most people are not doing that today, even though God’s calling is for each one among men from the beginning of time. Remember the word ‘everlasting’ of Rev 14:6! Apparently, John the Baptist had somehow, like most people then and now, accepted voluntary submission under the hierarchy of that time. That is, while still adamantly conveying to others the message and invitation of God for each of us to become a Son or a Daughter within the Family of God, John the Baptist himself somehow stayed short of allowing that reality to be his own then and there. Cf. John the Baptist’s words per Matthew 3:2 and Jesus’ words 4:17, while realizing also that the essential meaning of the term ‘at hand’ is something being applied in the here and the now, real time.

[ - I am convinced that it is pertinent for each one among us, even today, to ask ourselves re the very same issue: “Am I doing as Jesus/Yeshua did? Or am I satisfying myself while doing merely as John the Baptist did? Am I accepting God’s offer to me in real time, or am I not?”

[ - I find it more than a coincidence, much more, that my attention was directed to that Bible passage this very morning, that is, the morning when I were to first begin reading this Newsletter #15 of yours!

[ - Praise the Lord of Hosts!]

When Christ steps into history and acts, the expression, “I, even I” is very fitting. If you search for this phrase in the Bible, you will find that it several times is used by God when He refers to Himself. One instance is found in Isaiah 43:11:

I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior. (NIV)

[ - Thanks for that reference, Toby! Doesn’t that passage from the Book of Isaiah make it adamantly clear that the ‘I’ here being referenced is a reference to the entire Family of God, that is, not to the exclusion of any Father, any Mother, any Son or any Daughter truly within the Family of God?! Even you or I! That is, to the extent that we, you and I, accept, in real terms, the very same offer that Jesus, our prime example, accepted for himself in his life there and then… And, in contradistinction to that reality which John the Baptist somehow accepted for himself…]

Thus, it is very unlikely that Daniel 11:1 refers to words coming from the mouth of an angel but more likely from Christ Himself. When something is repeated in Hebrew writings it has special meaning; it becomes the focus of the passage. “I even I” therefore is the emphasis in this passage describing the active One, in this case as the “Man Dressed in Linen.”

Truth

We already studied the word “truth” as an eternal symbol of God and especially Christ. For the third time, in this prophecy, the word “truth” is mentioned. Daniel 11:2:

Now then, I tell you the truth... (NIV)

A more direct and precise translation would have been, “And now the truth.” This confirms again that this word is not primarily about “truth” as the opposite of falsehood, but about Christ. In the rest of the explanation you will be able to see the Truth as Daniel’s Messiah.

[ - Yes indeed! And isn’t that very much the same emphasis as that which I’ve been attempting to convey by my comments above? That is, we, you and I, must not satisfy ourselves with passively accepting that Yehoshua, the man known as ‘Jesus,’ did what he did, any and all of it! On the contrary, we, I and you, must likewise accept the very same message that Jesus accepted, that is to actually be one with, to implement in each our here and now, the reality of God’s real time offers re every particular He is making clear to each of us! That is, “the truth…” as here referenced and emphasized even by you Toby! We should each fully identify ourselves with being One with “the truth,” shouldn’t we? Or else, are we to distance ourselves from that reality? That is, as do those referenced by the words “they also which pierced him” (Rev 1:7,) and by the words “Standing afar off for the fear of her torment… And the merchants… shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment…” (Rev 18:10, 15.) Cf. also the message within Revelation 20:4-5!]

The World Order

The vision in Daniel 10-12 has similarities to Daniel 2, 7, and 8. We will, for example, see the same order of the world-powers. So, why is the Bible repeating itself? There is a good reason for it. God wants to make sure we understand it well. At the same time every vision has a specific touch and direction, just like the four gospels. Daniel 2 shows the whole world’s history from Babylon and King Nebuchadnezzar to the second coming of Jesus. In that chapter we will get the overview and will be able to see how this world will end.

If you, however, compare Daniel 2 with the vision in Daniel 11, you will be amazed right away at how detailed the explanation in Daniel 10-12 is. In Daniel 2 one world-power is followed by another world-power and hundreds or even thousands of years go very quickly. In Daniel 11-12 we will rather read about one king after another and later on you will find some kings described even more extensively. So we can already summarize that the prophecy in Daniel 10-12 is very detailed.

Therefore, the biggest mistake we can make is to run too quickly in history in regard to “time” in Daniel 11-12. Why should a detailed prophecy just of a sudden make “jumps” of a thousand years or so? It does not make sense! Those big “jumps” we rather anticipate to find in Daniel 2, which covers the whole world’s history in five verses. This concludes that we will take the historical route for our study. Daniel 11:2 talks about the Kingdom of Persia and about more kings that will come, Daniel 11:2:

Three more kings will appear in Persia, and then a fourth, who will be far richer than all the others. When he has gained power by his wealth, he will stir up everyone against the kingdom of Greece. (NIV)

No names are given here but it is important to show the accuracy of the prophecy. In Daniel 10:1 we read that Cyrus was the King of Persia and if “three more kings will appear” they ought to be Cambyses, the False Smerdis and Darius I Hystaspes. These names can be found in many commentators’ books.

[ - For the record: 1) Cambyses began his reign as a 3 y/o child as coregent with his father Cyrus in 530 BCE and he died Av 6, 523 BCE. 2) The pretender named ‘the False Smerdis,’ a lookalike of Cambyses’ younger (!) brother Tanaoxares, reigned from Av 6, 523 BCE – Nisanu 10, 522 BCE, that is, a reign lasting 7 or 8 months, before being discovered and dethroned by... 3) Darius I Hystaspes who reigned from Nisanu 10, 522 BCE – the winter of 486/485 BCE. For details please see the table of regents under this link!

[ - But… What happened to the remaining four (4) very real kings of Medo-Persia named 4) Xerxes (Ahasuerus,) 5) Artaxerxes, 6) Darius II Nothus, and 7) Artaxerxes II? What do you do with them??? I mean, why do you even mention the first three, two of whom were mere children, if you are not going to account for such as were at least old enough to take some responsible action, such as certainly characterizes any real king - such as the Scriptures would have all of us be, that is, per Rev 1:6 and 5:10?

[Why not count the four kings (of Daniel 11:2) instead in terms of the kings being remembered and recorded for us in the Holy Scriptures:

[ 1) Darius I Hystaspes, the one under whom the 2^nd temple in Jerusalem was finally rebuilt,

[ 2) Xerxes (Ahasuerus,) who married Ester, the queen brought up by her relative Mordecai, and whose responsible actions are recorded for us in the Book of Esther, and

[ 3) Artaxerxes [I,] under whom Nehemiah restored the walls of Jerusalem, and

[ 4) Artaxerxes II, under whom Ezra of the Book of Ezra was given permission to do what he did?

[ - Wouldn’t that make much more sense – ‘kings’ in terms of the Scriptures themselves?!!!]

Greece

The next Persian king, the “fourth” one, “will be far richer than all the others.” According to the same historical sources this king was Xerxes, also described in the book of Esther…

[ - What historical source are you referring to??? So far as I am aware there were at least two (2) more Persian kings, referenced in the Bible too, following Xerxes (Ahasuerus…) Cf. above! Cf. also the five (5) kings referenced in SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 2, p. 154.]

He truly was wealthier than the other three kings and stirred up everyone against Greece, which is the next kingdom to be described. Daniel 11:3:

Then a mighty king will appear, who will rule with great power and do as he pleases. After he has appeared, his empire will be broken up and parceled out toward the four winds of heaven. It will not go to his descendants, nor will it have the power he exercised, because his empire will be uprooted and given to others. (NIV)

The next verse is about Greece, and there we find its first king described. It refers to Alexander the Great. He was very powerful and conquered the world rapidly. At the peak of his victories, something tragic happened. He died very young, in his early thirties. His kingdom was not given to any relatives but was divided into four parts and given to four of his generals, everything exactly according to the prophecies.

Four Became Two

As time went on, Greece was declining and the power was concentrated more and more to two areas. Towards the north there was Syria and towards the south we had Egypt. “North” and “south” in the Bible usually has Israel as reference point. In Syria there was a king named Seleucus I, and the dynasty was named Seleucids, and it is probably referring to him when, in verse 6, it mentions “the king of the North.”

In Egypt the king was Ptolemy I, and his dynasty was named Ptolemies, and he is named “the king of the South” in verse 5. If you have more historical interest, please look up historical resources and many of the commentators seem to agree in this passage.

Daniel 11:5-15 gives us quite detailed descriptions of the king of the South and the king of the North. It appears that the explanation is getting more and more detailed the further into Daniel 11 you read. That is an important observation for us. Therefore, we should not run too quickly in history, when we do our interpretation of this passage. The historical details of Daniel 11:5-15 will not be discussed further in this newsletter.

The Invader

The next world power according to the chronology would then be the Roman Empire. If that is true, we should be able to identify the upcoming Roman emperors. In Daniel 11:16 this power will come against the King of the North. That means a new power appears on the scene. The NIV uses the word “invader” and many other translations, “he who comes.” We are dealing with a very powerful nation since the phrase, “The invader will do as he pleases,” is used.

The phrase “do as he pleases” was also used when the Greek Empire was introduced in Daniel 11:3 and now very fittingly when the next world power, the Roman Empire, comes to power. Some commentators continue to write about different rulers of the Kings of the North, but some don’t. Keep an open mind for very soon you will see clear indications that this new power refers to the Roman Empire. Daniel 11:16:

The invader will do as he pleases; no one will be able to stand against him. He will establish himself in the Beautiful Land and will have the power to destroy it. (NIV)

The Roman Empire conquered the so-called Beautiful Land or Judea in ~~64/63~~ B.C. and it certainly had the power to completely destroy it...

[ - The dated events (revised) that I have are these: 1) Pompey takes Jerusalem on the solemnity of the fast; Augustus delivered June 28, 67 BCE (seasonally corrected;) and 2) Herod's capturing of Jerusalem Tishri 10, 43 BCE [September 13 or October 12 or 13, 43 BCE.] "And thus did the government of the Asamoneans cease, a hundred twenty and six years after it was first set up." (Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, Book XIV:16:4.)]

From the other prophecies in Daniel we know that this empire, or the Fourth Beast, was “terrifying,” “frightening,” “very powerful,” “crushed and devoured its victims,” “trampled underfoot,” etc., Daniel 7:7, 19, 23. This will become more obvious to us later on.

The Roman Emperors

After the power has been identified it is common in the Book of Daniel to describe one or several kings. This is exactly what now takes place and in the next passage one emperor is described, Daniel 11:17-19:

He will determine to come with the might of his entire kingdom and will make an alliance with the king of the South. And he will give him a daughter in marriage in order to overthrow the kingdom, but his plans will not succeed or help him. Then he will turn his attention to the coastlands and will take many of them, but a commander will put an end to his insolence and will turn his insolence back upon him. After this, he will turn back toward the fortresses of his own country but will stumble and fall, to be seen no more. (NIV)

The king who fits best to this description is Julius Caesar. He made an alliance with Cleopatra of Egypt, the Queen of the South, and she bore him a child named Caesarian. In spite of Julius Caesar’s plans, he was not successful with this alliance which verse 17 supports. Verse 18 describes his warfare, which we will ignore right now.

Later in his life Julius Caesar returned to Rome, toward “his own country,” as it is written in verse 19. There he was supposed to be safe but then something dramatic happened. When he was among his own a coup took place. He was killed by his friends and was “to be seen no more.”

[ - For the record: My revised date for the death of Julius Caesar was ‘Ides of March’ (March 15), 49 BCE. More at this link…]

Caesar Augustus

Julius Caesar is described in these three verses. It is amazing how much information that is given out in so few words. He is introduced as the invader and then some essential things in his life are described and the passage ends with his death. It is important for us to recognize this pattern. The next verse starts with “His successor” or “Then shall arise in his place” and clearly indicates that the next emperor will follow, Daniel 11:20:

His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. In a few years, however, he will be destroyed, yet not in anger or in battle. (NIV)

The expression “his successor” indicates a new emperor but not a new world power. After Julius Caesar’s death there was a time of civil wars. The next selected emperor was Caesar Augustus. He came to power in 31 B.C. and reigned until 14 A.D according to most commentators.

[ - For the record, not 31 BCE, but 35 BCE, and not 14 CE, but 10 CE:

§ The beginning of Augustus’ reign: Adar 27 or 28, 47 BCE [April 1 or 2, 47 BCE ± 1 lunar month (March 3 or May 1.)]

§ Octavian's [Augustus'] final victory: "Despite a victory at Alexandria on July 31, 35 BCE (revised,) more of Mark Antony's armies eventually deserted him, leaving him without a competent force to fight Octavian. Mark Antony then tried to flee from the battle. In a communication breakdown, Antony came to believe that Cleopatra had been captured, and so he committed suicide.

§ "Cleopatra heard the news about Mark Antony and, rather than risk being captured by Octavian, committed suicide herself, on August 12, 35 BCE (revised)"

§ Augustus died “on the fourteenth day before the Kalends of September at the ninth hour, just thirty-five days before his seventy-sixth birthday,” i.e. Av 19 or 20, 10 CE [August 19, 10 CE.]

Caesar Tiberius

Historically, the emperor that followed Caesar Augustus was Caesar Tiberius. He reigned from 14 A.D. to 37 A.D. according to most commentators. That means he was the emperor during the time of Christ’s baptism, ministry and crucifixion. He was also in charge of Israel when the 490 year prophecy given in Daniel 9:24 ended in 34 A.D…

[ - The correct years pertaining to Caesar Tiberius, according to the best sources that I’ve been able to discover, are not 14 CE and 37 CE, but June 26, 1 BCE to the evening of March 15, 23 CE!

[ - Re the 490 year prophecy and the error inherent in “34 A.D.,” well, we’ve been through that before, have we not? For instance in your Newsletter #8, in your Newsletter #9 at these three links, in your Newsletter #11 at these two links, and in your Newsletter #12 at these two links…]

Let’s see if this can be confirmed in the next Bible passage. Let’s start to read what happened after the death of Caesar Augustus, Daniel 11:21:

And in his place shall arise a vile person, to whom they will not give the honor of royalty; but he shall come in peaceably, and seize the kingdom by intrigue. (NKJV)

That is exactly what happened! Caesar Augustus’ son did not become the next emperor, which would have been the natural succession. Instead Caesar Augustus’ adopted son, Tiberius, took the reign “by intrigue.” In that sense Tiberius did not have the “honor of royalty,” and it is also true that he came in “peacefully,” without any violence. Historically it is also well-known that Tiberius was a vile, sadistic, and contemptible person. Thus, the description in the Bible prophecy fits very well to Caesar Tiberius.

If we assume that Caesar Tiberius is the fulfillment of Daniel 11:21, the question is when the next emperor will step onto the scene. How many verses describe Caesar Tiberius’ life, actions and where is his death portrayed?

The Next Emperor

The last passage, Daniel 11:22-45, is loaded with information and the interpretations are many. It appears that those who have tried to understand this passage by historical research have failed. Many are the ideas who this emperor might be. I read 10 books about this subject and found 11 explanations concerning this contemptible emperor.

In one book “this evil emperor” was supposed to be “Communism.” But in the footnote I read that Communism just fell and therefore, the footnote continued, it must refer to Saddam Hussein instead. Well, for us living today, only a few years later, we know that even Saddam Hussein is gone. The point is that we cannot look at the news media and decide who fulfills a certain prophecy. We have to find the explanation in the Bible and from its context!

But why would God make it so difficult that hardly any consensus can be found? Is it possible that many have misunderstood the last part of Daniel 11 because they have trusted the historians too much? Is it possible that the Bible alone might solve our problem? We have already said that 10:1, 14, 21 and 11:2 have showed the direction of the vision and its interpretation. Let us take these texts to heart and see what happens if we follow the biblical directions very carefully.

Follow the Pattern

In regard to Julius Caesar, Daniel 11:17-19, we read 1) about him as the emperor 2) then we read the essence of his life and accomplishments, and finally 3) the details concerning his death. The pattern is the same concerning Caesar Augustus, Daniel 11:20. 1) First, he is the “successor,” 2) then follows his accomplishments and eventually 3) his death is described. Therefore, it would be logical to find the same pattern in Daniel 11:21 and onwards. There are 25 verses left of Daniel 11, and we have to consider these questions:

· After Daniel 11:21, is any other emperor introduced as a “successor?”

The answer is NO!

· Does Daniel 11:21-44 lists accomplishments without indications of a timeline?

The answer is YES!

· Where is the death of an emperor described in Daniel 11:21-45?

It is described in the last verse of Daniel 11, in verse 45!

After answering these questions we realize that Daniel 11:21-45 describes one and the same emperor. His death is described as follows: “Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him.” That certainly fits to Caesar Tiberius. He died slowly from a chronic disease and he was hated by his own people. A celebration of his death actually took place before he was dead. Therefore the final phrase in Daniel 11:45 fits very well to him. No one had any interest to come and “help him.” Everybody was eagerly awaiting Tiberius’ death.

[ - An important and relevant question at this point is, I believe, this one: Is there anyone among us living today, that is, while yet living within the reckoning of time beginning with the beginning of the reign of Caesar Tiberius, that truly and honestly wish to use of our God-given powers “to come and “help him…”” and his One World Government or any of its many States???!!! Re the dates of Caesar Tiberius, please cf. also the dates of today as given at the top of these emails of mine to you!

[ - Doesn’t this situation fit perfectly that scenario that we’ve been blessed with learning about as Seventh-day Adventists, that is, that end time scenario when Satan has gathered all of his troops to storm and destroy the New Jerusalem and when no among his very own soldiers are willing to take action in accord with his command…?!!!

[ - Consider it! Selah!]

In summary, it appears that the whole passage from 11:21-45 refers to the life and accomplishments of Caesar Tiberius. To make this clear I have taken these verses from the NIV and when “he,” “him,” “the king,” etc. refer to Tiberius, a new line is started. The reason is to show that no new emperor is introduced in this passage. The names within [ ] are added by me and occasionally a verse number ( ) is added to help you in your personal Bible study.

Daniel 11:21-45

He [Caesar Augustus] will be succeeded by a contemptible person [Tiberius] who has not been given the honor of royalty.

He will invade the kingdom when its people feel secure, and

he will seize it through intrigue. Then an overwhelming army will be swept away before him; both it and a prince of the covenant will be destroyed. After coming to an agreement with him,

he will act deceitfully, and with only a few people

he will rise to power. When the richest provinces feel secure,

he will invade them and will achieve what neither his fathers nor his forefathers did.

He will distribute plunder, loot and wealth among his followers.

He will plot the overthrow of fortresses — but only for a time. (25) With a large army

he will stir up his strength and courage against the king of the South. The king of the South will wage war with a large and very powerful army, but he will not be able to stand because of the plots devised against him. Those who eat from the king's provisions will try to destroy him; his army will be swept away, and many will fall in battle. The two kings, with their hearts bent on evil, will sit at the same table and lie to each other, but to no avail, because an end will still come at the appointed time. (28)

The king of the North will return to his own country with great wealth, but

his heart will be set against the holy covenant.

He will take action against it and then return to his own country. At the appointed time

he will invade the South again, but this time the outcome will be different from what it was before. Ships of the western coastlands will oppose him, and

he will lose heart. Then

he will turn back and vent his fury against the holy covenant.

He will return and show favor to those who forsake the holy covenant. (31)

His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. With flattery

he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist

him. Those who are wise will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by the sword or be burned or captured or plundered. When they fall, they will receive a little help, and many who are not sincere will join them. Some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time. (36)

The king will do as he pleases.

He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard – of things against the God of gods.

He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place.

He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the one desired by women, nor will

he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all. Instead of them,

he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his fathers

he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. (39)

He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him.

He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price. (40) At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and

the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships.

He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood.

He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. (42)

He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape.

He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Nubians in submission. But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and

he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. (45)

He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at the beautiful holy mountain. Yet

he will come to his end, and no one will help him. (NIV)

When Daniel 11:21-45 is displayed in this way, we have to realize that:

1) No new emperor is introduced in this passage.

2) His life is extensively described.

3) His death occurs in 11:45.

4) The pattern in these verses is the same as in the passages concerning the previous emperors! His starting point, his achievements, and finally his death!

5) If this is true, there is no jump of hundreds or thousands of years anywhere within this passage! Emperor Tiberius reigned from 14 A.D. – 37 A.D. and this must be the time referred to in Daniel 11:21- 45.

[ - And, in the extended sense – the most important one to each of us here and now - the “Emp[ire of Caesar] Tiberius [ - as reckoned per the official calendar used by the current powers that be - ] reigned [i.e. has been in power] from [June 26, 1 B.C.] – [present time, even until today]…“

[ - And, once again, the correct years pertaining to real live Caesar Tiberius, according to the best sources that I’ve been able to discover, are not 14 CE and 37 CE, but June 26, 1 BCE to the evening of March 15, 23 CE!]

Thus, God has made it possible to understand this passage without extensive historical knowledge. We simply need to follow the pattern given in this passage! Later in Daniel 12 we will see more indications that support this view.

Summary

· In contrast to previous prophecies, Daniel 11-12 gives a very detailed description of the emperors.

· This prophecy starts with the kings of Persia, continues with Greece and Alexander the Great and eventually with the emperors of the Roman Empire.

· The first Roman emperor described is Julius Caesar, Daniel 11:17-19.

· The second Roman emperor depicted is Caesar Augustus, Daniel 11:20.

· The third and last Roman emperor described is Caesar Tiberius, Daniel 11:21-45.

· The typical pattern is that Daniel 1) introduces a successor, 2) writes about his life and accomplishments and 3) describes his death.

· Caesar Tiberius reigned from 14 A.D. – 37 A.D according to most commentators.

[ - The correct years pertaining to real live Caesar Tiberius, according to the best sources that I’ve been able to discover, are not 14 CE and 37 CE, but June 26, 1 BCE to the evening of March 15, 23 CE!

[ - The Empire of Caesar Tiberius is still recognized as being in power within the One World Empire of the Destroyer, Satan, that is, as reflected by the calendar officially used and promoted by the powers that be!]

· The reasons that Caesar Tiberius accomplishments are so detailed will be seen in Daniel 12.

Toby Joreteg MD, PhD

www.TobyJoreteg.com

[1] These bracketed words are most likely not Ellen White’s words! Please cf. the definition of use of brackets as previously provided in my Comments to your Newsletter #12!