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Written with a beginning on 5936 02[1] 26 2029 ["v2017-05-23"]

 

The Third Day [of the week,]

 

The 26th day of month #2, 26 Zif,

in the 5936th ["v2017-05-23"] year following the beginning recorded in Genesis 1

and in the 2031st year following the beginning recorded in Luk 1:26-33

 

[27 Iyar (month #2) 5777 per recent Jewish reckoning

(based upon a decimal error in Hillel II’s directives causing a wandering of the seasons!),

 

[Tuesday, the 2nd day of the Pope’s week (as revised in Sweden from 1973 A.D.,)

May 23 in the 2017th year of Caesar Tiberius

(per current Gregorian reckoning in Europe and elsewhere,)

Cf. Daniel 7:25…]

 


Dear Brother Arnold,


Having twice before laid my claim upon the US$10,000 that you have long been offering (see our email correspondence below,) I wish hereby to add yet a third claim of mine unto said US$10,000. That is, unless you are able to prove out of the Holy Scriptures alone that 2 Kings 4:23 does not make a clear enough distinction in time between such days as are designated as either 'new moon' or else 'sabbath:'

"And he said, Wherefore wilt thou go to him to day? it is neither new moon, nor sabbath. And she said, It shall be well." (2 Kings 4:23 KJV)




I would prefer your depositing said US$10,000 in the form of BitCoins unto the following Bitcoin address: 36gBSVRtJfE5cet6qTfAyY51npoztTC2gP

However, should you prefer another means of transferring said US$10,000, then please let me know, and I will see what alternatives I may have available for you.


Shalom,

Gunnar Anders Smars Jr ©


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:41 PM, <powerfulchoices@gmail.com> wrote:

 

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Written with a beginning on 5925[((*??*))] 08[1] 25 2029

 

The Second Day [of the week,]

 

The 25th day of month #8, 25 Cheshvan,

in the 5925th[(??)] year following the beginning recorded in Genesis 1

and in the 2029th year following the beginning recorded in Luke 1:26-33

 

[The 24th day of the month per ancient Rabbinical reckoning,

26 Kislev (month #9) per more recent Jewish reckoning

(based upon a decimal error in Hillel II’s directives causing a wandering of the seasons!),

 

[Sunday evening, the 7th day of the Pope’s week (as revised in Sweden from 1973 A.D.,)

December 9 in the 2012th year of Caesar Tiberius

(per current Gregorian reckoning in Europe and elsewhere,)

Cf. Daniel 7:25…]

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Brother Arnold,

                                             

Thanks for your feedback and your words re your current conviction! I believe very much in each and every one of God’s People standing up 100% for each their conviction! How else can anyone ever walk steadily ahead, and without sliding back?!!

I can surely side with you re some things. For instance, I have discovered that there is a distinct difference, albeit with some overlap, between the Hebrew words “ראשׁית” and “אחד,” that is, between Strong’s H7225 and H259, both of which are frequently being translated ‘one’ or ‘first.’ Per my own Scripture word study, however, I’ve discovered that H7225 is a word that is always indicating that which is “foremost, the best, the most important,” that is, while not always first in time or first in line. It has become clear to me that “ראשׁית” is a word that, when used together with the word “יום” (Strong’s H3117,) is frequently used for identifying the Seventh Day Sabbath.

To me this fact is reminiscent of your way of describing each day of the creation week as numbered simultaneously in two different ways and by two distinctly different numbers. Indeed, the above would even seem to fit your concept of the first word of Genesis 1:1 pointing to the Seventh Day, that is, a day prior to the First Day of creation week…

Likewise, by my own in depth Scripture studies I have become convinced that “month number one” or “the first month” as those terms are being used within the Scripture’s own reckoning of time, is really the “foremost month” of the year because it is the one month that is being used for adjusting the entire year to the seasons, that is, by means of the aviv (a certain stage of ripeness of the barley.) Even so, the Scripture year ends with the Feast of the Tabernacles and begins with the Feast of the Eighth Day, that is, with the change over at the point of the beginning of the 22nd day of the seventh month.

But I do not count on your buying any of these concepts right off hand, so never mind the details of any of the above! I just wanted to tell you that I perceive some strength in your own line of thought as presented in your email.

 

. . . . .

 

However, I do have some few questions for you that I’d be pleased to see you answer. If you’ll be so kind, please!:

 

1)    Re 1 Kings 16:21 and the Hebrew words “היה אחרי” (Strong’s H1961 + H310.)  Isn’t it true that “היה” means “to be, to exist” and that “אחרי” means “hind part, after, following?” Doesn’t it make sense then to translate those two Hebrew words, when used together, in terms of “that which exists after [something,]” that is, as in “was following” or “followed?”

2)   What basis do you find for translating the word “היה” (Strong’s H1961,) when found in a passage all by itself, that is, without the word “אחרי” (Strong’s H310,) in terms of something that pertain to that which follows? For instance in Genesis 1:31? Yes, I know what’s in the Septuagint, but wouldn’t it be correct for the translator of the Septuagint to use, in his translation, Greek concepts of time such as makes more sense to the Greek mind, that is, to a mind trained more upon the end point of any time period (Greek thinking) than upon the very point of beginning (Hebrew thinking)?

3)   As to the word “on” in the English KJV translation of Genesis 2:2, let me ask you this simple question: When you stand on the floor, are you then in the floor, or are you only touching the very top of the floor? Likewise, if you cease your work at the very point of the beginning of the Seventh Day, are you then working within the boundaries of that time period, or not?

4)   Re the English word “ended” in Genesis 2:2 (Strong’s H3615,) I find a better translation of the Hebrew word being “abstained from” or “completely ceased from.” Considering the heavy Scriptural emphasis, in the Hebrew Scriptures, upon the beginnings of each and every event, it makes a lot of sense for to me to perceive that Hebrew word, meaning “abstained from,” as the label marking the very beginning of the Seventh Day period of time. Yes, I understand that this does not agree with your current line of thought, but can you perceive any light in that point of view?

5)   Doing my own Scripture word studies I’ve also discovered that the Hebrew words translated “evening and morning” (e.g. throughout Genesis 1) are more accurately translated “darkness and light/heat.” It follows naturally – consider the evening shadows rising upon the eastern side of the valley! – that the beginning of darkness of every new day comes well before the end of the light of the prior day is completely gone. Thus, to the ancient Hebrew mind, there was always an overlap between one day and the next, whereas to the Greek mind the new day begins exactly at the point where the old day ends. To avoid confusion, wouldn’t it make sense then for the LXX translator to use such Greek words, and such Greek language, as is most likely to be correctly understood by the Greek mind? I mean, as opposed to using a literal translation of words that the Greek mind would be likely to misunderstand and misapply?

 

Shalom,

Gunnar Anders Smars Jr ©

 

 

 

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Please consider the following.

 

I can conclusively prove, to an unbiased mind, there was a new moon day BEFORE the first work day in Genesis 1. In order to prove there was a day before the first workday, we must understand what a day is in the Hebrew language. The Scripture and the Hebrew definition teaches A DAY IS A SPACE OF TIME. It can be a year, Exodus 13:10, Leviticus 25:29, numbers 9:22, etc. it can be a month, Deuteronomy 21:13, and it can be a week, Daniel 10:2 and of course it can be a day, or even 12 hours etc. If this is true, and it is, then there WAS A SPACE OF TIME, which is understood as a day in Hebrew, when heaven and earth was created and it was BEFORE he worked on his creation for six days. This proves there was a day/space of time before the first workday, i.e. space of time equals day in Hebrew.

 

If there was a space of time/day before the first work day, this would explain Genesis 2:2 which teaches he was working or winding up his work on the seventh day. It says that he ENDED/finished his work “ON” the seventh day or the seventh space of time and we know he would not have finished up or ended his work on the WEEKLY seventh day, therefore the seventh day, or seventh space of time that he finished on, was counting from the very first space of time or the new moon day and then he RESTED/CEASED on the weekly seventh day after working on his creation for six days. He did not finish working on the SAME seventh day that he rested in!

 

He finished working on the day before he rested, NOT ON THE DAY HE RESTED. Genesis 2:2 does not say that he finished or ended his work BEFORE the seventh day but ON the seventh day. There is a huge difference. There are TWO 7th days in Genesis 2:2. One day finished his work in and one he rested on. The Septuagint says that he finished his work on the sixth day and rested the seventh and I say there is no contradictory between the two. I will explain this later.

 

The reason I say it was a new moon day or first day of the month in the beginning is because the first day of creation was the first day of the year and the first day of the month because the first day of everything could not have been in the middle of the month or year because there was no year or month before this and therefore the first day had to be the first day of the month and year. Now someone could argue that it was the first day of the year but not the first day of the month because of the fourth day in creation but if you will notice it teaches that BOTH the Sun and Moon were placed or positioned in the heavens for seasons/appointments on day four and you cannot intelligently say that it was the fourth day of the year or the first day of the month when the Scripture teaches that both of them were set in their positions on day four for a calendar. I will prove this later in this article but first I will show how it is possible for him to FINISH His work ON the seventh day without breaking the Sabbath!

 

The new moon worship day commemorates the creation and the weekly Sabbath commemorates his rest after working on his creation for six days. I cannot think of anything else that the new moon worship day could commemorate and all of his other worship days commemorate something, why not the new moon worship day? And if the new moon day does commemorate creation of heaven and earth, it did not take place on day four because heaven and earth existed before day four. Even the angels worshiped and shouted at creation when he stretched forth the heavens. This was the FIRST day, or CHIEF day and all the other days FOLLOWED in session, i.e. there were eight sequences of events.

 

The first work day of the week FOLLOWED the chief day or new moon day, which I will also show later in this article. The Sabbaths and new moon days are very important worship days and at the time of Ezekiel the first work day still FOLLOWS the new moon or Sabbath according to Ezekiel 46:1 where it says that “the gates of YHWH’s House is to be shut THE SIX WORKING DAYS but opened on the Sabbath AND day of the new moon, proving the new moon is not one of the six ordinary working days.” Every month we have a replay of creation with the new moon worship day representing creation of heaven and earth and four Sabbaths each month representing the rest after working on his creation for six days. This keeps us in memory of his great power and mighty acts. He was proud of what he done and rightfully thinks we should be also. Hallelujah.

 

Someone might ask the question, if there was a space of time or day when the heaven and earth was created, before He worked on it for six days, and it was the FIRST day, why wasn’t it called the first day? I believe it was called the first day when it says the evening and the morning WERE the first day, I believe it was referring to the day heaven and Earth was created. In other words after the creation day/yom, there were six more spaces of time before he rested the seventh day, which would be the eight space of time.

 

There was a space of times when He began working on his creation by creating light and divided it from the darkness which caused an evening and morning and it was this space of time that FOLLOWED the first day/creation day, or first-space of time. This second space of time was the first work day/yom or space of time that he worked on his creation but this first day of the week was the second day of the month in creation and this second day/space of time followed the FIRST or chief day. It was not the first day but followed the first day. It was actually the second day, and then there was the third day which followed the second day. It was not the second day but followed the second day. Then you had another day that followed the third day, which was actually the fourth day. Then you had another evening and morning that followed the fourth day which would be the fifth day. And then you had a no other evening and morning that followed the fifth day, which would actually be the sixth day and then you had a number evening and morning that followed the sixth day which would actually be the seventh day. Now notice carefully these two verses which proves what I am saying. Genesis 1:31… and the evening and the morning WERE/FOLLOWED the sixth day.

Ask yourself what day follows the sixth day? This is none other than the “seventh” day from creation, NOT THE SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK, and the verse next verse proves it. It says,

 

“thus the heavens and the earth were FINISHED, and all the host of them. and ON the SEVENTH DAY He ENDED his work which he had made;” (Gen- 2:2

 

Now I ask you, what day did he end or finish his work on? He finished or ended it ON the day that FOLLOWED the sixth day which is the seventh day. This shows the order or the sequence of events in which they occurred. Heaven and Earth was created on the FIRST day. Light was created and divided on the SECOND day which is the day that followed the FIRST day. The firmament was created on the THIRD day and it was the evening and morning that followed the SECOND day. The grass and herbs was on the FORTH day, which was day that followed the THIRD day. The great lights were placed in the firmament on the FIFTH day which is the day that followed the FORTH day. The SIXTH day the water brought forth and it was the day that followed the FIFTH day. The SEVENTH day the animals and man was created and it was the evening and morning that followed the SIXTH day. This was the seventh day that he ended his work ON but it was the sixth day of the week because the new moon worship day was not counted in the six working days. Everything was in sequence, one thing after the other. He then rested on the seventh day of the week which was the eighth day of the month, or 8th yom/space of time in creation.

 

Had the translators understood lunar Sabbaths, they would have translated the Hebrew word for WERE as FOLLOWED as they did in… 1Ki 16:21 where it says, “Then were the people of Israel divided into two parts: half of the people FOLLOWED Tibni the son of Ginath, to make him king; and half followed Omri.”

 

Notice the word “followed” is the same Hebrew word as WERE in Genesis 1:5 and could have just as easily been translated followed and then the verse would have read, the evening and morning FOLLOWED the FIRST day/Yom/space of time.

 

No one can intelligently argue that the Hebrew word for DAY is not yom, which literally means a space of time. No one can intelligently argue that there was not a space of time before the first workday yom, i.e. heaven and earth was created in the beginning before it was worked on for six days, this is a total of seven spaces of time or days, before He rested on the seventh day after six days of working on his creation. He actually rested the seventh day of the week but it was the eighth day of the month. He finished his work on the 7th day of the month, Genesis 2:2, and rested the seventh day of the week which was the eighth day of the month.

 

The same thing happened during the seven days of marching around Jericho, none of the seven days was the weekly seventh day. The seven-day march began on the new moon day according to the book of Jasher. The seventh day of the Jericho March was on the six day of the week. They were not making war and having a battle march on the weekly seventh day because the new moon worship days are not counted when counting out the weeks, same as in creation. Even the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia acknowledges that the weeks were originally by the phases of the moon and the new moon day/days are not counted when counting out the weeks. Look under Sabbath and look under weeks. It says,

“… each lunar month was divided into four parts, corresponding to the four phases of the moon.  The first week of each month began with the new moon, so that, as the lunar month was one or two days more than four periods of seven days, these additional days were not reckoned at all.  ....... With the development of the importance of the Sabbath as a day of consecration and emphasis laid upon the significant number seven, the WEEK became more and more DIVORCED FROM ITS LUNAR CONNECTION, …..it was merely a period of seven days and no longer depended on the new moon.”  1943 Universal Jewish Encyclopedia volume 10 page 482 edited by Isaac Landman under the article “WEEK”, written by Simon Cohen, The Director of Research. In the same encyclopedia volume 5 page 410 under the article “ HOLIDAYS”, written by a well respected Rabbi, Max Joseph, it says,

“1. Sabbath and New Moon (Rosh Hodesh), both periodically recurring in the course of the year.  THE NEW MOON IS STILL, and THE SABBATH ORIGINALLY WAS, dependent upon the LUNAR CYCLE.  Both date back to the nomadic period of Israel. ORIGINALLY the New Moon was celebrated in the same way as the Sabbath; gradually it became less important, while the Sabbath became more and more a day of religion and humanity, of religious meditation and instruction, of peace and delight of the soul, and produced powerful and beneficent effects outside of Judaism.” All this and much more is explained in our free booklet, Proof That the True Weekly Sabbath Are Determined by the Moon.

 

Genesis 2:2 disproves the traditional seventh day Sabbath because it has YHWH working on the seventh day. This problem goes away with lunar Sabbaths.

 

There were TWO 7th days in creation, one 7th day from the beginning/creation of heaven and earth and one 7th day after working on it for six days. Genesis 2:2 teaches that He ENDED/finished his work ON the seventh day, NOT before the seventh day and he RESTED or ceased on the weekly seventh day after six working days. There are two different Hebrew words for ENDED and RESTED, and BOTH did not take place on the same seventh day. He ENDED or finished his work ON THE SEVENTH DAY from creation and then RESTED the seventh day of the week after six days of working on his creation.

 

I believe the FIRST space of time when heaven and earth was created in Genesis 1 could very well be understood as the CHIEF day or space of time before the first workday of the week. Almost everyone agrees there was a space of time in the beginning before the six workdays, some even think it was 1000 years. Some think it was another Earth age etc, but at any rate there was a space of time which is called yom/day in Hebrew.


 
And as I said, the first day of creation was the very first day of the year AND OF THE MONTH, i.e. the very first day of the year AND month when heaven and earth was created, was call the FIRST day or in the beginning and everything was dark because there was no light on this day but heaven and earth still existed BEFORE it was worked on for six days and is referred to as FIRST day because after he created Heaven and Earth he began working on it for six days and when he said let there be light and divided it from the darkness, it was then that evening and morning FOLLOWED the first day, when heaven and earth was created. The day that FOLLOWED the FIRST day (or new moon day) was the first work day of the week when he worked on his creation but it was the second day of the month. This is why Genesis 2:2 can correctly say that he ended or finished his work on the seventh day and it not be the weekly Seventh day, causing him to break his own Law because none of us finish or end our work on the 7th day, we end it on the sixth day. If you count the evening and morning as being the first day instead of following the first day, you have the Almighty breaking his own Law by finishing his work on the seventh day, Genesis 2:2.

 

In Exodus chapter 20:11 Moses tells them that in six days the Almighty MADE heaven and Earth, and we know from the above that heaven and Earth was created in the beginning AND IT DID NOT take six days to create heaven and earth according to Genesis 1:1. Heaven and Earth was created before he worked on it for six days.

 

Moses is referring to how the Almighty worked or advanced upon His creation for six days and then rested or ceased the seventh day, which would actually be the eighth day of the month, to the Hebrew mind back then. There are two entirely different Hebrew words for CREATE and MADE. The Hebrew word MADE can be understood as advanced upon, i.e. Moses is telling them that the reason they should rest the seventh day is because the Almighty rested the seventh day after working on his creation for six days. He is not telling them that it took six days to create heaven and earth because that was created in the beginning before he moved on the face of the waters, that were already here, before he began working on his creation and said let there be light and divided it from the darkness because the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep, on the chief day when heaven and earth was created and then he began working on his creation for six days. 
 
Again, in studying this subject we must understand that a SPACE OF TIME is called yom/DAY in Hebrew. A day/space of time can be a year, a month, a week, or a part of a 24-hour day, it does not have to be 24 hours and there are plenty of Scripture where a year, month, and week, are ALL called yom/day in Hebrew and this proves that a day is a space of time.

 

If there was a space of time in the beginning, BEFORE he worked on his creation for six days, then there was a scriptural DAY/yom/space of time when he created heaven and earth before he worked on it for six days and rested the 7th. Therefore He would have finished up or completed his working ON THE SEVENTH DAY/YOM or the seventh space of time but it would have been the seventh day/space of time from the beginning which is also the SIXTH WORKDAY of the week. This seventh day or Seventh space of time is not the weekly Seventh day but it is the seventh day of the month. He finished up or completed his work on the seventh day from creation and then He rested the seventh day of the week after working on his creation for six days and this is why I say they are TWO seventh days in Genesis 2:2. 
 
The SIXTH WORK DAY of the week at creation is actually called the SEVENTH day in the Hebrew text because they are one and the same depending on how you look at it. Counting from the creation it is the seventh day and counting the day’s creation was work on, it is the sixth day. Same as the 15th day of the first month is called the 7th day in Exodus 13:6 and the 22nd is referred to as the 7th day in Exodus 12, see my article on this at
www.lunarsabbath.info.     
 
Philo, who lived during the time of our Savior, teach that they are two 7th days during the feast of unleavened bread, the seventh day of the week that begins the feast and the seventh day of the feast. This shows he observed lunar Sabbaths.

 

I believe they are TWO 7th days in creation week, the one where He completed or finished up his work and the other one where He rested. Scholars have been trying to explain why the Hebrew text says that he finished his work on the seventh day, when they know good and well that his work was finished on the six-day and he rested or ceased on the seventh day of the week. Lunar Sabbaths has solved this mystery. 
 
The Scripture says in Genesis 2:2 that He COMPLETED OR FINISHED HIS WORK “on” the SEVENTH day and none of us believe that he was winding everything up or finishing up ON the weekly seventh day. He never worked on the weekly 7th day at all, so how is it possible that he finished everything up on the seventh day as Scripture says? 
 
The answer is He DID NOT complete his work on the Seventh day of the week and then rest on the SAME Seventh day. He finished his work on the seventh day/yom/space of time from the beginning or creation of heaven and earth and then rested on the weekly Seventh day after working on his creation for sixth days.

 

No one who keeps a weekly lunar Sabbath finishes his work on the seventh day and then rests on the same seventh day and neither did he. This can be harmonized if you understand there was a day/space of time before the first workday of the week in creation.
 
The Septuagint bears out that the first seventh day in Genesis 2:2 is actually the SIXTH day of the week and it is even called the sixth day in the Septuagint but the Hebrew calls it the seventh day and they BOTH are right if you understand the sequence of events. He did not FINISH "and" rest on the SAME seventh day.

 

He ended or completed/finished his work on the seventh day of the month or from creation/beginning and then he rested or ceased from EVERYTHING on the weekly seventh day which comes after six working days. 
 
Ge 2:2 "And on the SEVENTH day God ENDED his work which he had made; and he RESTED on the SEVENTH day from all his work which he had made." 
 
I challenge anyone to try ending or finishing your work on the weekly Seventh day and then resting on the same seventh day, without breaking it! Try ending your work on the sixth-day, which is the seventh day of the month, and then resting on the seventh day of the week which is the eighth day of the month, and you will not be breaking the Sabbath.

 

Everyone should agree that the first day in creation was the first day of the month and the first day of the year and when he finished up on the seventh day, it was preparation day to Lunar Sabbath observers. Every month we finish all of our work on the seventh day of the month and then we rest the seventh day of the week.
 
There is a difference in ending something on a day and resting on a day, if you do both you are breaking the Sabbath. We do not end our work ON the weekly Seventh day. WE END OUR WORK ON THE SIXTH DAY, not the seventh day and then we rest the Seventh day.

 

Therefore the first seventh day in Genesis 2:2 has to be understood as counting from the space of time in the beginning and this is in harmony with all the other first weekly Sabbath of the month throughout Scripture which always falls on the eighth yom/day each month. Each month is a rehearsal or reproduction of the creation event. Again, the new moon yom/day/first space of time commemorates the creation of heaven and earth and the EIGHTH yom/day/space of time commemorates the seventh day rest, after working on his creation for six days. It repeats this every month and that is why you cannot find a weekly Sabbath on any other day than the eight, 15th, 22nd, and 29th. This is just the way it is. 
 
Do we really believe that He ENDED his work "ON" the seventh day or BEFORE the seventh day??? He ended his work before the seventh day. Again, scholars have been baffled with Genesis 2:2 for ages. 
 
The answer to everything is simple if you understand Lunar Sabbaths and that the very first day of each month, or new moon day, used to the sacred and commemorates the creation Day and is NOT counted as one of the six ordinary work days of the week, see Ezekiel 46:1. 
 
The seventh day that he COMPLETED his work on is different from the seventh day that he rested on. The first seventh day in Genesis 2:2 had to be referring to the SIXTH WORK DAY OF THE WEEK on which he COMPLETED his work, BUT counting the first yom day/space of time/new moon or creation Day/beginning when everything was dark, it is the seventh day. The other SEVENTH day has to be referring to the day he rested on after working on his creation for six days and therefore you have TWO seventh days, one he finished up on and one he rested on.
 
Again, I don't believe the Septuagint and the Hebrew text contradict each other. Notice the Septuagint teaches THERE WERE TWO THINGS that was done. It says that He FINISHED on the sixth day and he CEASED on the Seventh day. This does not contradict the Hebrew text if you understand that he FINISHED on the seventh day/yom from the creation and then CEASED on the weekly Seventh day. 
I believe he ended his work ON the seventh day/yom and it was BEFORE the weekly seventh day arrived. How was this possible? He ended his work on the seventh day of the month which is always the sixth day of the lunar week and he rested on the seventh day of the lunar week which is the eighth day of the lunar month. There is no other explanation that I know of. The solar only month and the solar week will not work. Again, if you don’t believe there was a day before the first workday of the week, you have the Almighty working on the weekly seventh day instead of the seventh day of the month!
 
With Lunar Sabbaths we have TWO seventh days in the first week of every month, same as it was in the beginning or creation week and the Jericho March. We have the new moon worship day which is not counted when counting out the weeks but is still the FIRST day of the MONTH and then we have six work days of the week, and the sixth day of the week will also be the seventh day of the month and that is the seventh day from the new moon worship day that we FINISH our work, same as in Genesis 2:2. AFTER the new moon worship day, we have the six working days of the week and the sixth work day will always be the seventh day of the month and this is the seventh day when he finished all his work at creation, which we call preparation day. 
Then we rest the SEVENTH day AFTER working six days and this will always be on the EIGHTH day/yom of the month/moon. i.e. we have the seventh day from the new moon/creation which is preparation day and it is followed by the seventh day of the week which is the rest day but it is also the EIGHTH/yom day of the month, just like it was at creation. 
 
You might ask how can you have TWO seventh days in one week??? Philo, a Levite, who lived at the time of the Messiah, says there are TWO seventh days during the two seven-day feasts , Unleavened Bread and Tabernacles. he teaches that the weekly Seventh day begins the feast/15th and you have a seventh day that ends the feast. Even those who observed the traditional seventh day that floats back and forth during the days of unleavened bread have two seventh days in the feast, counting the one that ends the feast. The seventh day of the feast is not the seventh day of the week, same as the seventh day that he finished on is not the seventh day of the week.
 
Compare the Hebrew text and the Greek text. 
 
Ge 2:2 And "ON" the SEVENTH day God ENDED his work which he had made; and he RESTED on the SEVENTH day from all his work which he had made. 
 
The Septuagint text says, 
 
"and YHWH finished "ON" the SIXTH day his works which he made, and He CEASED on the SEVENTH day from all his works which He made.” 
 
Notice in the Hebrew text, His work was ended ON the seventh day of the month, NOT the seventh day of the week, and he rested on the eighth/yom day of the month which is the Seventh day of the week. Again, this harmonizes with all the pinpointed weekly Sabbaths found in Scripture and this is no coincidence. 
 
 
 It is worthy of notice that not only the Septuagint, but the Syriac, and the Samaritan, also read the sixth day instead of the seventh; 
 
Again, I challenge anyone to try ending your work on the weekly Seventh day and then resting on the same seventh day without breaking the Sabbath day. I admonish everyone to end your work on the sixth-day, which is the seventh day of the month, and then rest on the seventh day of the week which is the eighth day of the month, as was the case in creation. 
 
Again, Genesis 1, the Hebrew word for WAS or WERE could have been translated FOLLOWED making the first evening and morning the evening and the morning the second day or space of time that FOLLOWED the first day/yom, NOT the English understanding that it was the first day, but followed the first day, making it the second day/yom of the month.

 

Also the word for DAY in Hebrew is YOM and simply means a space of time and there was a space of time when he created heaven and earth BEFORE he worked on it for six days. This means there was a creation day/space of time before the six days he worked on his creation. I don’t think anyone would disagree that the first day when he created heaven and earth was the CHIEF day and that it was the first day of the month/new Moon day. 
 
Remember 1 Kings 16:21- the people FOLLOWED (were) Tibni. 
 
 Notice the same word “were” as found in Gen- is translated FOLLOWED in 1 Kings 16:21. The people FOLLOWED Tibni but was NOT Tibni therefore the Hebrew word for were could have also been translated FOLLOWED instead of “were”, in Gen-:1. (the evening and morning followed the first/chief day, it was not the first day but followed it). It was up to the translators and what they thought Genesis 1:1 was saying and not knowing about the true Sabbath they done the best they could. First Kings- 16:21 has another word that also can be translated followed. 
 
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PS, if it turns out that I am wrong in my assessment, and the evening and the morning was the first day instead of followed the first day, it does not disprove lunar Sabbaths for several reasons. I would argue that if it was the first day it is understood as the first work day that he worked on his creation for six days, i.e. the evening and morning was the first work day of the week but it was not the 1st space of time of time. And if someone argued that it was included with the creation space of time it would still not disprove lunar Sabbaths because I would already that the moon still beacon a eight day phase on day seven because he was speaking from the opposite side of the Earth and there was 12 hours of the evening before they got 12 hours of light on the other side of the Earth which would mean the first day or first space of time consisted of 36 hours or at least over 24 hours because when heaven and earth was created and everything was dark and he moved upon the waters and said let there be light there had to have been a space of time for this to have happened and when he divided the light from the darkness, the opposite side of the Earth would have had 12 hours of darkness before the light came to them, PLUS whatever time there was before he said let there be light. With this in mind, day four would be 12 hours difference on one side of the Earth. The way we reckon time, day four would be 12 hours difference even though the Earth is the same age of both sides, i.e. one side of the Earth will begin day 4 while the other side of the Earth will have to wait 12 hours before it begins day 4

 

On day 4 at creation, the beginning of that day on one side of the Earth will be different from the other side of the Earth concerning time, even though the Earth is the same age on both sides.

 

One of the reason is that on day 4 it does not say what phase the moon was in, i.e. it could have been a forth work day phase and even if it was created on day four, it would still be in time to do what it was created for and that is to beacon the appointments, including the weekly appointment which was the only appointment at that time other than the new moon. 

 

Exodus 16 is conclusive and clearly teaches the weekly Sabbaths are on the days I propose and cannot be intelligently argued against. The Scripture you quoted is not conclusive as to what phase the moon was in and there is no conclusive proof that there was not eight spaces of time! I have other intelligent arguments I could perceive but this is long enough already. Do you have another Scripture that is as plain as Exodus 16, which cannot intelligently be argued against?

 

 

 Brother Arnold www.lunarsabbath.info

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Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 7:32 am
Subject: Claiming my $10,000... - Once again!

 

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Written with a beginning on 5925[((*??*))] 08[1] 22 2029

 

The Sixth Day [of the week,]

 

The 22nd day of month #8, 22 Cheshvan,

in the 5925th[(??)] year following the beginning recorded in Genesis 1

and in the 2029th year following the beginning recorded in Luke 1:26-33

 

[The 21st day of the month per ancient Rabbinical reckoning,

23 Kislev (month #9) per more recent Jewish reckoning

(based upon a decimal error in Hillel II’s directives causing a wandering of the seasons!),

 

[Friday, the 5th day of the Pope’s week (as revised in Sweden from 1973 A.D.,)

December 7 in the 2012th year of Caesar Tiberius

(per current Gregorian reckoning in Europe and elsewhere,)

Cf. Daniel 7:25…]

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Brother Arnold,

I never received the $10,000 you promised. That is, in spite of sending you my reference to Genesis 2:2-3, which exactly satisfies your request:


“SHOW 1 conclusive weekly Sabbath in scripture, that was not on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, or 29th.”

 

Another Scripture reference is Nehemiah 6:15, although for you to recognize that fact may require some little in depth studying on your own volition and initiative. Here’s a link to my analysis of that passage in case you are looking for a little assistance in perceiving the details of that text…

I have other such passages. Lots of them!

 

Once again, and in consequence of my first claim – Please see copy below! - I would appreciate your fulfillment of a promise made:

Please send me my $10,000! When you do, please notify me of the details by email!

 

May the peace of our Creator rest over each our families and homes,

 

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Skickat: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:13 PM
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The First Day [of the week,]

 

the 18th day of month #6, 18 Elul,

in the 5923rd[(??)] year following the beginning recorded in Genesis 1

and in the 2027th year following the beginning recorded in Luke 1:26-33

 

[The 17th day of the month per ancient Rabbinical reckoning,

19 Tishrei (month #7) per more recent Jewish reckoning

(based upon a decimal error in Hillel II’s directives causing a wandering of the seasons!),

 

[Sunday night, the 7th day of the Pope’s week (as revised in Sweden from 1973 A.D.,)

October 16 in the 2011th year of Caesar Tiberius

(per current Gregorian reckoning in Europe and elsewhere,)

Cf. Daniel 7:25…]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Brother Arnold,

 

Genesis 2:2-3 is the first weekly 7th Day Sabbath referenced in the Holy Scriptures that was obviously not on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, or 29th day of the lunar month.

 

My preferred snail mailing directions are as follows. (Please notify me by email to let me know that you have sent me snail mail! Thank you!:)

 

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Skickat: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:55 AM
Till: PowerfulChoices@gmail.com
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SHOW 1 conclusive weekly Sabbath in scripture, that was not on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, or 29th. Example, ex-16 shows a conclusive weekly Sabbath on the 22nd of the moon that cannot be sanely argued against. I dont have much spare time but send me one scripture where a weekly sabbath was not on one of the above dates, along with your adress, and i will send the money. just the scripture please, like the scripture I gave in ex. 16, no private interpations please.

 

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Sent: Sat, Sep 17, 2011 6:01 pm
Subject: Step one towards claiming your $10,000...

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Written with a beginning on 5923[((*??*)] 05[[[1]]] 18 2027

 

The First Day [of the week,]

 

the 18th day of month #5, 18 Av,

in the 5923rd[(??)] year following the beginning recorded in Genesis 1

and in the 2027th year following the beginning recorded in Luke 1:26-33

 

[The 18th day of the month per ancient Rabbinical reckoning,

18 Elul (month #6) per more recent Jewish reckoning

(based upon a decimal error in Hillel II’s directives causing a wandering of the seasons!),

 

[Saturday night, the 6th day of the Pope’s week (as revised in Sweden from 1973 A.D.,)

September 17 in the 2011th year of Caesar Tiberius

(per current Gregorian reckoning in Europe and elsewhere,)

Cf. Daniel 7:25…]

 

 

 

 

Dear Br. Arnold Bowen,

 

Although my wallet is empty and although I have no bank account any more, that is, although I am basically penniless in terms of the thing people generally call “money,” if, with the help of the Word of God and with the help of the Holy Spirit, I’ll be able to help both of us closer to a true and correct understanding of God’s Word, that is infinitely more worth to me than are those $10,000 you are offering me if I am able to meet your challenge and to convince you that those claims of yours are not what you think that they are…

                                      

My first question is this:

In this offer of yours, “The author offers a $10,000 reward to anyone who can pinpoint a weekly Sabbath on any other day than by the moon,” what are the limits within which I must confine myself when pinpointing such a weekly Sabbath? Do I have to confine myself to the Bible, or are your boundaries more, or less, stringent than that? That is, am I to show you, anywhere within the 66 books of the Holy scriptures, a passage specifying a weekly Sabbath that did not fall on any of the 1st, 8th, 15th, 22nd, or 29th of a month?

 

Shalom,

 

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[1] After having focused closely upon Scriptural chronology based upon the most original references and using the best tools available to me, I see little or no reason not to consider Scripture month #1, aviv (as used and applied in Biblical times,) as being based upon the aviv found on Mount Jerusalem, or perhaps more accurately, upon the current location of the Ark of the Covenant (while not upon the aviv found at hotter and lower altitudes, albeit within the boundaries of Israel, e.g. in the Negev desert (2012,) in the Jordan valley (2011,) in the Jordan valley (2010) or in the Negev desert (2010.) Cf. this link!

[1] After having focused closely upon Scriptural chronology based upon the most original references and using the best tools available to me, I see little or no reason not to consider Scripture month #1, aviv (as used and applied in Biblical times,) as being based upon the aviv found on Mount Jerusalem, or perhaps more accurately, upon the current location of the Ark of the Covenant (while not upon the aviv found at hotter and lower altitudes, albeit within the boundaries of Israel, e.g. in the Negev desert (2012,) in the Jordan valley (2011,) in the Jordan valley (2010) or in the Negev desert (2010.) Cf. this link!

[1] After having focused closely upon Scriptural chronology based upon the most original references and using the best tools available to me, I see little or no reason not to consider Scripture month #1, aviv (as used and applied in Biblical times,) as being based upon the aviv found on Mount Jerusalem, or perhaps more accurately, upon the current location of the Ark of the Covenant (while not upon the aviv found at hotter and lower altitudes, albeit within the boundaries of Israel, e.g. in the Jordan valley or in the Negev desert.) Cf. this link!

[1] After having focused closely upon scriptural chronology based upon the most original references and using the best tools available to me, I see little or no reason not to consider scripture month #1, aviv (as used and applied in Biblical times,) as being based upon the aviv found on Mount Jerusalem, or perhaps more accurately, upon the current location of the Ark of the Covenant (while not upon the aviv found at hotter and lower altitudes, albeit within the boundaries of Israel, e.g. in the Jordan valley or in the Negev desert.) Cf. this link!