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What’s in it for Me, for Each One among Us?

 

 

 

Abstract:

 

Although there may not always be direct and immediately understandable messages in the details of that which each of us sees, hears, or otherwise experience, it may be worth our while to consider it!

There may be more in it than at first we see. When we allow God to keep talking to us He will show us more and more light and our understanding will grow! That’s the nature of this study... for me!

Perhaps God has something in all of this for you too?

 

Selah!

 

 

 

 

Considerations:



What other lessons may be gleaned from these studies of history?

 

Re Daniel’s warning to each of us re being disoriented to time, place, and person relative to our Creator:

Given that one of said kings, almost certainly Cyaxares, died in the Adar [the 12th month] following the fall of Babylon, it may at first appear as though Cyrus’ reign must be reckoned from that date (probably Adar 27) and his 1st year of reign must be reckoned from the next subsequent Abib 1 and Tishri 22, respectively; and in that order [i.e. as reckoned using the Babylonian and Scriptural calendars. (Be careful though, here is one instance of added light for me…!)] Accordingly, Cyrus’ 3rd Scriptural year of reign would have to be reckoned as beginning no earlier than 536 BCE if Babylon fell 539 BCE (or else beginning in 530 BCE (or?!) if indeed Babylon fell in 534 BCE.)

The corresponding Aviv 24 (of Daniel 10:4) would then be Aviv 24, 535 BCE and Aviv 24, 530 BCE while reckoning in both cases Scriptural years.  That would make possible a Shabbat incidence for Daniel 10:4 for the former (539 BCE fall of Babylon) but apparently not for the latter (534 BCE fall of Babylon.) Were we instead to use the Babylonian calendar, the corresponding years would be 536 BCE and 531 BCE, which in both cases could accommodate a Daniel 10:4 Shabbat incidence.

This last proposition is interesting in view of the fact that the language of the Book of Daniel changes from Hebrew to Aramaic/Syriack at the verse where the Syriack language is first mentioned in Daniel’s book (Daniel 2:4) and then it changes back to Hebrew after the end of the 7th chapter (cf. the discussion of this very topic in SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 4, p. 749!) where Daniel is speaking of a power that “shall… think to change times and laws.

In fact the very first instance of a time reference is in the very same verse: “And they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” And isn’t even our own evangelistic reckoning of historic time even now being affected by those changes referenced in Daniel 7:25?!

Still, at this point, this idea of Abib 24 of that year being a Shabbat is definitely somewhat hypothetical, somewhat conjectural, is it not? Is there a way of having it confirmed? What about if this idea is somewhat of a key to Daniel 8:14, 26?!:

Dan 8:14  And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Dan 8:26  And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.

 

Would Daniel be switching from the Scriptural calendar he is using in chapter 1, to a Babylonian calendar beginning at the end of chapter 7, in consequence of the angel’s admonition at the end of verse 26?: “Wherefore shut thou up the vision…” And what about Daniel’s words “unto us confusion of faces, as at this day” (Daniel 9:7) even in reference to our present confusion re the person and re the actual date reference in Daniel 9:1-2?:

In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans; In the first year of his reign…

Could it be that we, like Daniel, will only understand the correct dating of these events when we understand how to accurately identify the time, places, and person named in Daniel 9:1?:

 In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans;

 

 

Re the tabernacle as a symbol of each our own family as well as a symbol of the House and Kingdom of God:

And what about our longstanding confusion re the primary thing being represented by the sanctuary, even our very own families as created into the image of God?:

17 Now therefore, O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant, and his supplications, and cause thy face to shine upon thy sanctuary that is desolate, for the Lord's sake.

18 O my God, incline thine ear, and hear; open thine eyes, and behold our desolations, and the city which is called by thy name: for we do not present our supplications before thee for our righteousnesses, but for thy great mercies. (Daniel 9:17-18.)

And what about our understanding of the 70 weeks, the 62 weeks, and the 1 week referenced in Daniel 9:24-27? But please find more about those last items at this link!

 

 

Re Daniel vs. Saul/Paul and his conversion experience:

Further, what about this verse?:

“And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves” (Daniel 10:7.)

…in comparison to these words of Paul:

Act 22:9  And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

Act 9:7  And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

 

I am especially thinking of the correct timing of a most special solar eclipse, which when correctly identified, may help us reestablish a correct footing for the Olympic calendar and a correct understanding of all the ancient dates tied to it, e.g. in the works of Josephus.

 

 

Re who is who in familiar passages of the Bible – and how each of us may identify with such ones:

And who are the ones being spoken of in this following verse? Who was “the prince of the kingdom of Persia” at the time referenced in Daniel 10:1? Who are “the kings of Persia?” Notice the use of plural and in past tense and not in reference to Medo-Persia, but to Persia alone?:

“But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.” Daniel 10:13

Could it be that this last verse is in reference to Cyrus and his very young sons? Cyrus got married only after the fall of Babylon and his 3rd year of reign ended on Tishri 21, 531 BCE, or just about three years after the fall of Babylon and the beginning of his marriage. Given that Cyrus’ father, Cambyses, king of Persia, may, most likely, still have been alive at that time it is probable that Cyrus is the one being referenced by the words “the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me…” Also it seems as though Cyrus’ own two sons, Cambyses and Tanaoxares are being referenced by the words “the chief princes.” However, consider carefully the meaning inherent in the name Michael as considered under this link! Apparently “the kings of Persia” is a reference to Cyrus and his father Cambyses, for Cyrus’ eldest son Cambyses, is not being referenced as king jointly with his father Cyrus until Cyrus’ 4th year of reign (at an age of 4 years:)

 

 

Cyrus’ victory over Babylon

 

[7.5.15] At last the ditches were completed. Then, when he heard that a certain festival had come round in Babylon, during which all Babylon was accustomed to drink and revel all night long, Cyrus took a large number of men, just as soon as it was dark, and opened up the heads of the trenches at the river.

 

[7.5.16] As soon as that was done, the water flowed down through the ditches in the night, and the bed of the river, where it traversed the city, became passable for men.

[7.5.27] And Gobryas and Gadatas and their troops found the gates leading to the palace locked, and those who had been appointed to attack the guard fell upon them as they were drinking by a blazing fire, and without waiting they dealt with them as with foes.

 

[7.5.28] But, as a noise and tumult ensued, those within heard the uproar, and at the king's command to see what the matter was, some of them opened the gates and ran out.

[7.5.29] And when Gadatas and his men saw the gates open they dashed in in pursuit of the others as they fled back into the palace, and dealing blows right and left they came into the presence of the king; and they found him already risen with his dagger in his hand.

 

Cyrus’ father, Cambyses, still king of Persia following the fall of Babylon:

[8.5.22] Then Cambyses assembled the Persian elders and the highest of the chief magistrates; he called in Cyrus also and then addressed them as follows: "Toward you, my Persian friends, I cherish, as is natural, feelings of good-will, for I am your king; and no less toward you, Cyrus, for you are my son. It is right, therefore, that I should declare frankly to you what I think I recognize to be for the good of both.

 

Cyrus’ wedding permitted by his father, the king of Persia:

[8.5.28] When, on his way back, he came to Media, Cyrus wedded the daughter of Cyaxares, for he had obtained the consent of his father and mother. And to this day people still tell of her wonderful beauty…

 

Cyrus’ death bed speech to his successors; his two sons (both at the time less than 10 yrs of age:)

 [8.7.11] So you, Cambyses, shall have the throne, the gift of the gods and of myself, in so far as it is mine to give."To you, Tanaoxares, I give the satrapy of Media, Armenia, and, in addition to those two, Cadusia. And in giving you this office, I consider that I leave to your older brother greater power and the title of king, while to you I leave a happiness disturbed by fewer cares;

 

And whom Cyrus repeatedly referenced as “children:”

[8.7.28] "Remember also this last word of mine," he said: "if you do good to your friends, you will also be able to punish your enemies. And now farewell, my children, and say farewell to your mother as from me. And to all my friends, both present and absent, I bid farewell."After these words, he shook hands with them all, covered himself over, and so died.

 

                       ( Xenophon (ca 430-355 BCE,) The Life of Cyrus The Great )

 

 

 

 

Does God’s freedom and the realization of God’s Kingdom for each and any of us require the death of our predecessors, OR does God have greater and better means to His ends…?

 

When did the Cyrus’ 1st Scriptural year of reign actually begin?

Did you hear some bells ringing in your mind on your way to this point? I did! Last night I was for a while convinced that Cyrus’ 1st Scriptural year began after Cyaxares’ 2nd Scriptural year, the year in which he, “the king died” shortly before Adar 28. Then, shortly before I retired to my bed it began to dawn upon me… Ding dong! Ding dong! Bells kept ringing… and not only in my computer… Why was there no Aviv 24 Daniel 10:4 Shabbat in 530 BCE? Why did the angel say, in Daniel 9:23&25, that “At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth…?” Why at a time described by these words: “In the first year of Darius…” Why, is this the only place where Darius is called “king over the realm of the Chaldeans …?” How could it be that the decree of Darius, if issued in his 1st Scriptural year of reign was not issued in the year immediately following upon the 70th year of Babylonian captivity but only after the completion of the 71st year? Something did not seem quite right here! But what? Weren’t these passages clear enough for me to hear the certain sound of the trumpet? Not clear enough for me to get the message? Hmmmm….

Well, then it began dawning upon me… Why would Scriptural reckoning have to follow the same rules as Babylonian reckoning? It doesn’t! Would Scriptural reckoning affect or be affected by Babylonian reckoning? No. What constitutes the basis for the beginning of a Scriptural reign/Scriptural jurisdiction? Someone’s death? Hardly! Then what? Hmmm… Mutual consent between parties? Did Cyrus have the consent of Cyaxares and/or Cambyses, his father? Consent for what? To serve as a subject of the king in the capacity of a General and Commander of the joint Medo-Persian army? Yes, but that doesn’t make him a king, does it?! But why did Cyrus in some respects act and speak as a king after the conquest of Babylon even while still recognizing that he was not the king?:

Following the conquest of Babylon:

“[7.5.37] After this, Cyrus conceived a desire to establish himself as he thought became a king, but he decided to do it with the approval of his friends, in such a way that his public appearances should be rare and solemn and yet excite as little jealousy as possible.”

(Xenophon (ca 430-355 BCE) in his book The Life of Cyrus The Great)

 

“The god commanded him to make the march to his city Babylon, he made him take the road to Tintir (Babylon), the forces of Cyrus marched like a cloud and an earth wall. His army was wide-spreading and far-reaching like the waters of a river, his forces were without number. He made them enter Kal-anna without fighting and without contest ; he made breaches all round the city, and he (the god) delivered Nabonidus, who did not reverence him, into the hands of Cyrus. All the people of Tintir and all the people of Akkad and Sumir, nobles and priests who had opposed the king, he crushed beneath him, and they came and kissed his feet. And then the god Merodach, who by his service makes the dead to live, and who in difficulty and trouble aids every one, drew near to him favourably and made known his proclamation, saying, “I am Cyrus the king .... the great king, the mighty king, king of Tintir, king of Sumir and Akkad, king of the four regions of the earth, the son of Cambyses, the great king, king of the city Anzan, grandson of Cyrus, the great king, king of the city of Anzan, great-grandson of Teispes, the great king of the city of Anzan, of the ancient seed of royalty, whose dominion (reign) Bel and Nebo had exalted according to the beneficence of their hearts.”

(Ernest Alfred Wallis Budge, Babylonian Life and History, p. 82)

 

Even Daniel is confirming that Darius(/Cyaxares) was the recognized king of Babylon following its fall:

 

1 In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans;

2 In the first year of his reign… (Daniel 9:1-2.)

 

But what happened next? Didn’t Cyrus make a most important contract/covenant involving both the king of the Medes and the king of Persia? He did, didn’t he?! He was offered and accepted as his wife the daughter of Cyaxares, king of the Medes, but only after first obtaining the agreement of his father and mother, Cambyses, king of Persia (cf. Xenophon, [8.5.19-20,] [8.5.28])

 

 

 

What is the nature of such a covenant?:

 

Genesis 2:24 KJV  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

 

So now, after the consummation of this important covenant, what was the boundaries of his kingdom? Weren’t the boundaries of both Media and Persia, the other two parties to this three party covenant, already defined? Wasn’t Cyrus acting, still, in the joint interest of all three parties? Doesn’t it only make sense that, pending the death of the other two kings, Cyrus would be recognized as king over the lands outside the established boundaries of both the other parties that he, Cyrus, had succumbed? Wouldn’t it only make sense for Cyaxares to grant him those areas as a wedding gift and/or in recognition for having saved the Median kingdom from the aggressors under the king of Assyria?! That only makes sense, does it not? It does! And didn’t Cyaxares confirm this fact with his very own words:

“And with her I offer you all Media as a dowry, for I have no legitimate male issue.”

 

Then what remains besides establishing the timing for the consummation of this event? Now, wasn’t his oldest son, Cambyses, delivered by the subsequent Nisan 4? He was! So when was the wedding covenant consummated? Some nine months prior, wasn’t it? Even adding a leap month to the calendar gives Cyrus only until Av 5, 534 BCE if we are to allow a full term pregnancy before delivery, does it not? It does! Thus we see that Cyrus certainly gave priority to his family matters before doing anything else following the conquest of Babylon. Is there any wonder that God blessed him in his pursuits? I think not! Cyrus seems to have known well some of the fundamental priorities in life.

 

It follows that Cyrus accession to his portion of the Medo-Persian Empire began well in advance of the end of the Scriptural year in which Babylon fell. Thus, Cyrus’ 1st Scriptural year began with Tishri 22, 534 BCE.

 

 

 

Re Daniel 10:4 and Aviv 24 falling on a Shabbat:

 

It follows from the above that Cyrus’ 3rd year began with Tishri 22, 532 BCE – and that the Aviv 24 of Daniel 10:4 more than likely did fall on a Shabbat! After all!

 

 

 

Re Daniel’s consistent use of the Scriptural calendar:

 

It follows from the above that the reason for my question re Daniel’s use of reckoning being changed at the end of Daniel chapter 7 is removed and that we may use Daniel 10:4 and an Aviv 24 Shabbat as confirmation for Daniel consistently using Scriptural calendar reckoning.

 

 

 

 

 

Re Cyrus’ wedding:

 

Xenophon’s refs re wedding and covenants between parties: [8.5.17]-[8.5.28]

Babylon captured: Tammuz 16 = Jun 21, 534 BCE

 

Dates expected if Cambyses was delivered on Nisan 4, 533 BCE:

LMP: June 24, 534 BCE

Ovulation: Jul 8, 534 BCE

Conception: Between Jul 4 - Jul 9, 534 BCE = Tammuz 30 - Av 5, 534 BCE

EDC: Nisan 4 = the day beginning at sunset Mar (30 or) 31, 533 BCE

 

Key event and Day of decision: Tammuz 27, 534 BCE, the day Cyrus’ parents consented to his marriage?

 

Date of Cyrus return to Babylon from his wedding in Media: The evening or late night of Marchesvan 3 [Oct 3/4,] 534 BCE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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