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Are the Elephantine Papyri Using Egyptian or
Babylonian Regnal Years?
(Cf. also the Elephantine papyri portion of this Excel spread sheet:)
Papyrus |
Original default |
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Later default under Artaxerxes I |
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Used only rarely |
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For your reference only |
Comments |
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Egyptian Calendar Year |
Difference between Egyptian and papyri |
Babylonian Calendar Year |
Difference between Babylonian and papyri |
Scriptural Calendar Year |
Difference between Scriptural and papyri |
Julian Calendar date of papyri etc. |
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AP 5. Elul 18 = Pachons 28,
year 15 of Xerxes |
15 |
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15 |
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14 |
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Between sunrise Sept 12 and sunrise Sept 13, 471 BCE |
Ahasuerus/Xerxes began his
reign between Thoth 1, 486 BCE and
Tishri 21, 485 BCE, probably even before Aviv 1, 485 BCE. (For details please cf. this link!) “Year 15” is Egyptian
reckoning by default, a conclusion extrapolated from the pattern of scribal
policy noticeable during the reign of Artaxerxes. Cf. the green columns
below! |
AP 6. Kislev 18 = Thoth
[17], year 21, the beginning of the reign of Artaxerxes 1 |
2 |
- (Artaxerxes Egyptian year not given) |
Accession year |
0 |
Accession year |
0 |
Between sunset Jan 2 and sunrise Jan 3, 464 BCE |
Provided Artaxerxes began
his reign between Aviv 1 (Babylonian calendar,) or Tishri 22 (Scriptural
calendar,) 465 BCE and Epagomanea 5, 465 BCE. |
AP 10. Kislev 7
- Thoth 4, year [2]9 [or 5
[Egyptian] (or possibly 3 [Scriptural or Babylonian];) gs edit] of Artaxerxes
I |
5 |
0 |
3 |
0 |
3 |
0 |
Between sunrise Dec 20 and sunrise Dec 21, 462 BCE |
Given that “29th”
really does not fit the pattern and that if 9 is an error, then the correct
year is whatever it is, not necessarily "year 4," i.e. depending on
whether the Egyptian, the Babylonian, or the Scriptural calendar is the one
being used in that particular papyrus on that Julian day. Given also that
"year 4" does not fit the pattern either and that either the
Egyptian year 5, the Babylonian year 3, or the Scriptural year 3 all are
possible correct dates, but that the Egyptian year 5 not only fits the pattern
best, but is also the most similar sounding number to the Hebrew number 9
especially when read pronounced together with the Hebrew word “year”, i.e.
“shanat tesha” [=year 9] vs. “shanat shemini" [=year
5,] this is probably the one correct solution to this dilemma!!!!!!! (Cf. at
year 30 of Artaxerxes below; also comment re AP 10 in my file
treeoflife.wan.io/OTCh/Misc work files/Daniel and more/THE CHRONOLOGY OF EZRA
7 - with GS comments.doc) Notice: This is one of the three papyri (AP 8, AP 10, &
Kraeling 8) with a problem attributed to a scribal error per Horn and Wood,
all of which have now been resolved. |
AP 8. Kislev 21 Mesore 1,
year 6 of Artaxerxes I |
6 |
0 |
5 |
-1 |
5 |
-1 |
Between
sunrise Nov 12 and sunrise Nov 13, 460 BCE |
Notice: This is one of the three papyri (AP 8, AP 10, &
Kraeling 8) with a problem attributed to a scribal error per Horn and Wood,
all of which have now been resolved. |
AP 9. Year 6 of Artaxerxes I |
6 |
0 |
5 |
-1 |
5 |
-1 |
Ditto, more or less, confirming the year of the
above! |
|
|
8 |
1 |
7 |
0 |
6 |
-1 |
Between sunrise May 15 and sunrise June 14, 458 BCE |
As seen from this table it appears
as though beginning with the Cairo Sandstone the regnal year reckoning was
changed from Egyptian to Babylonian at or before the erection of this Stele. |
Kraeling 1. Phamenoth 25 =
Sivan 20, year 14 of Artaxerxes 1 |
15 |
1 |
14 |
0 |
13 |
-1 |
Between sunset July 6 and sunrise
July 7, 451 BCE |
|
Kraeling 2. [Tammuz [(or Av)
/ GS edit]] 18 = Pharmuthi [2], year 16 of Artaxerxes 1 |
17 |
1 |
16 |
0 |
15 |
-1 |
Between sunset July 11 (Pharmuti 1) and
sunset July 13 (Pharmuti 3,) 449 BCE. |
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AP 15. [Tishri 25] = Epiphi
6, year [30 [or 16; GS edit]] of [Artaxerx]es I |
17 |
1 |
16 |
0 |
16 |
0 |
|
Cf. AP 15 at Egyptian year
31 below! AP 15 is a badly broken papyrus and not much weigh can be placed on
it for any purpose! |
AP 13. Kislev 2 = Mesore 11 |
20 |
1 |
19 |
0 |
19 |
0 |
Between sunset Nov 18 and sunrise
Nov 19, 446 BCE, Mesore 11 and Kislev 2, 446 BCE |
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AP 14. Ab 14 = Pachons 19,
year 25 of Artaxerxes I |
26 |
1 |
25 |
0 |
24 |
-1 |
Between sunrise August 26 and sunrise Aug 27, 440 BCE |
|
Kraeling 3. Elul 7 = Payni
9, year 28 of Artaxerxes I |
29 |
1 |
28 |
0 |
27 |
-1 |
Between sunset Sept 14 and sunrise Sept 15, 437 BCE |
|
AP 10. Kislev 7 - Thoth 4,
year [2]9 of Artaxerxes I |
30 |
1 |
28 |
-1 |
28 |
-1 |
|
Cf. AP 10 at Egyptian year 5
of Artaxerxes I above! Problem solved! Notice: This is one of the three papyri (AP 8, AP 10, &
Kraeling 8) with a problem attributed to a scribal error per Horn and Wood,
all of which have now been resolved. |
AP 15. [Tishri 25] = Epiphi
6, year [30] of [Artaxerx]es I |
31 |
1 |
30 |
0 |
30 |
0 |
|
Cf. AP 15 at Egyptian year
17 above! AP 15 is a badly broken papyrus and not much weigh can be placed on
it for any purpose! |
Kraeling 4. Tishri 25 =
Epiphi 25, year 31 of Artaxerxes 1 |
32 |
1 |
31 |
0 |
31 |
0 |
Between sunrise Oct 30 and sunrise Oct 31,
434 BCE |
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Kraeling 5. Sivan 20 =
Phamenoth 7, year 38 of Artaxerxes 1 |
39 |
1 |
38 |
0 |
37 |
-1 |
Between sunset June 12 and sunrise June 13, 427 BCE |
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Totals for Artaxerxes’ reign |
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Total errors (raw count) =
11 Total w no change of regnal
year reckoning = 11 After identifying and
correcting the AP 10 mistake: 10 |
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Total errors (raw count) = ‑3 Total w changed regnal year
reckoning to Babylonian = -1 Errors after
identifying and correcting the AP 10 mistake:
0 |
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Total errors (raw count) = ‑9 Total w changed regnal year
reckoning to Scriptural = -7 After identifying and
correcting the AP 10 mistake: -6 |
|
This row is for purposes of
evaluating the pattern of dating the many papyri during the reign of
Artaxerxes. |
Kraeling 6. Pharmuthi 8 =
Tammuz 8, year 3 of Darius II |
4 |
|
4 |
|
3 |
|
Between sunrise and sunset on June 11, 420 BCE |
“Year 3” is an exception
using Scriptural/Jewish fall-to-fall reckoning. |
AP 20. Elul = Payni, year 4
of Darius II |
4 |
|
4 |
|
3 |
|
Between sunrise and sunset Sept 2, 420 BCE |
“Year 4… 8…” etc. (adjacent
& below) are Babylonian reckoning, which is apparently being used by
default, a conclusion extrapolated from the pattern of scribal policy
noticeable during the reign of Artaxerxes. (Cf. above the green columns
above!) Notice the difference in regnal years between Babylonian vs.
Scriptural regnal years in AP 20, Kraeling 7 & 8! |
Kraeling 7. Tishri = Epiphi,
year 4 of Darius II |
4 |
|
4 |
|
3 (or possibly 4?, but probably not.) |
|
More than likely this papyrus was dated between
sunrise and sunset October 2, 420 BCE, i.e. on Epiphi 1 and Tishri 1. |
Notice: Kraeling 7 “was written in the
month following the one recorded in AP 20.”
(Siegfried H. Horn & Lynn H. Wood, The Chronology of Ezra Seven.) From
this table it is clear that both these papyri were dated using the
spring-spring calendar. (Had both been dated using a fall-fall calendar,
these papyri would be evidence for the Elephantine papyri using a fall-fall
calendar beginning the year on Tishri 22, but even if this was indeed the
case, it cannot be proven by these papyri.) Cf. notice at Kraeling 8. |
Kraeling 8. Tishri 6 = Payni
22, year 8 of Darius II |
8 |
|
8 |
|
7 |
|
Between sunrise and sunset Sept 22, 416 BCE. |
Notice 1: This is one of the three papyri (AP 8, AP 10, &
Kraeling 8) with a problem attributed to a scribal error per Horn and Wood,
all of which have now been resolved. Notice 2:Had this papyrus been using Scriptural reckoning it
would have been proof of the scribe honoring Tishri 22 as the beginning of
the year, but because either Egyptian or Babylonian reckoning is being used
for all except one of the Elephantine papyri we have no such proof at this
time. Cf. notice at Kraeling 7. |
AP 25. Kislev 3, year 8 =
Thoth 12, year 9 of Darius II |
9 |
|
8 |
|
8 |
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Between sunset Nov 16 and sunrise Nov 17, 416 BCE |
At this point (before AP 25
& AP 28, and perhaps even from a time after Kraeling 5 (or even 6) and
the reign of Artaxerxes and before AP 20 and the reign of Darius II) a
scribal policy seems to have been introduced to the effect that when the Egyptian and Babylonian
regnal years differ, both are being specified. Notice the absence of
double regnal year specification when the numbers are the same (AP 20,
Kraeling 7 & 8, vs. Kraeling 7, 8, and AP 20!) |
AP 28. Shebat 24, year 13 =
Athyr 9, year 14 of Darius II |
14 |
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13 |
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13 |
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Between sunset Feb 10 and sunrise Feb 11, 410 BCE |
|
Cowley's ed. No. 30 |
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“Nov. 25, 407 B.C. (according to the Persian
calendar)” |
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Kraeling 9. Marcheshvan 24 =
Mesore 29, year 1 of Artaxerxes II |
1 |
|
Accession year or year 1 |
|
Accession year or year 1 |
|
Between sunset Nov 25 and sunrise Nov 26, 404 BCE |
Based upon the relative
dates of Kraeling 9 & 10, “year 3” of Kraeling 10 is necessarily Egyptian
reckoning. It follows that the Egyptian year reckoning for Kraeling 9 is year
1 whether or not that was intended by the scribe or not. Considering this change
in dating, i.e. the absence of specification for obviously differing years,
and the prior change of ruler one cannot be certain re the numbering of the
Babylonian and Scriptural year reckoning, though it may be that the
Babylonian reckoning is being referenced in Kraeling 9? |
Kraeling 10. Adar 20 =
Choiak 8, year 3 of Artaxerxes II |
3 |
|
1 or 2 |
|
1 or 2 |
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Between sunrise March 9 and sunrise March 10, 402 BCE |
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5 |
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4 or 5 |
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3 or 4 |
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“June 19, 400 B.C.” |
"The last known dated Jewish
document from that [ (SDA Bible
Commentary, Vol. 3, p.83:6.) Isn't it quite
likely that this Jewish community joined Ezra in Jerusalem when in the
seventh year of Artaxerxes II (in the spring of 397 BCE; the 7th
year referenced by Ezra beginning either Aviv 1, 397 BCE (Babylonian
calendar) or else, not likely, Tishri 22, 398 BCE (Scriptural calendar)) Ezra
and his people received the king's encouragement for moving back to
Palestine?!!! Possibly, a certain portion
of this Jewish community decided to move to Ethiopia bringing with them (?)
the Ark of the Covenant, that is, in recognition of God's calling His people
out from under any and all human hierarchies, that is, recognizing that Ezra
was acting under the authority of Artaxerxes II while acknowledging also that
Judah, Jerusalem, and the Temple were within the jurisdiction of Artaxerxes
II. Cf. this
video interview with Graham Hancock (at 0:13:13 or about
0:11:30-0:13:30.) |
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