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line-height:normal;tab-stops:120.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace: none'><span class=SpellE><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri; color:black'>Skickat</span></b></span><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;color:black'>:<span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span></span></b><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Friday, March 19, 2010 7:22 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:192.25pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-120.25pt; line-height:normal;tab-stops:120.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace: none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Till:<span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span></span></b><span style='mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;color:black'>'Toby Joreteg'<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:192.25pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-120.25pt; line-height:normal;tab-stops:120.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace: none'><span class=SpellE><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri; color:black'>mne</span></b></span><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri; color:black'>:<span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span></span></b><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:black'>SV: Daniel's Messiah #4]<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 10.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family: "Comic Sans MS"'>Without recourse.</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'> All Rights Reserved. Powerful Choices <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family: "Comic Sans MS"'>Non-Negotiable.</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'> <span class=GramE>Private between the parties.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>BergsLagen Republic <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Written beginning on 5930 01 02 2026<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family: "Comic Sans MS"'>that</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family: "Comic Sans MS"'> is, the Sixth Day, Preparation Day, and <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Aviv 2 in the 5930<sup>th</sup> Year, more or less, after the beginning recorded in Genesis 1:1, <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family: "Comic Sans MS"'>and</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family: "Comic Sans MS"'> in the 2026<sup>th</sup> Year after the beginning recorded in Luke 1:26-33<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>[Friday, the 5<sup>th</sup> day of the week, March 19 in the 2010<sup>th</sup> year <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family: "Comic Sans MS"'>after</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family: "Comic Sans MS"'> <a href="../../NTCh/TheRegnalYearsAndDatesOfRomanEmperors.htm#TiberiusCaesarsReignBrief">the beginning of Caesar Tiberius reign</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>(<span class=GramE>i.e</span>. as reckoned per the Gregorian calendar.)]<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Dear Toby, my old time friend, and my Brother in our Messiah,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>It is indeed a joy to read this #4 Newsletter of yours! Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>It is indeed good to hear your expressions of confidence in the writings of Ellen White and of her as a messenger of our Lord of Hosts! Beyond that which I ve shared with you already, I find little or nothing in this #4 Newsletter with which I do not concur. We do need to keep wrestling with the Word of God, each for ourselves. Me, you, all! Please do consider these words from The Great Controversy:<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace: none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'> Remember your church covenant, in which you have agreed to walk in all the ways of the Lord, made or to be made known unto you. Remember your promise and covenant with God and with one another, to receive whatever light and truth shall be made known to you from His written word; but withal, take heed, I beseech you, what you receive for truth, and compare it and weigh it with other scriptures of truth before you accept it; for <b><i><span style='color:red'>it is not possible the Christian world should come so lately out of such thick antichristian darkness, and that full perfection of knowledge should break forth at once</span></i></b>. --<span class=SpellE>Martyn</span>, vol. 5, pp. 70, 71. {GC 292.2}<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace: none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace: none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Those words in red are important words for me and you both to take to heart in each our ongoing pursuit of the ultimate and absolute truths re the particulars of each our understanding of the Word of God. Just as those words did pertain to those  they whom Ellen White, in your quotes of her, were referencing, so also those words must pertain to the studies you and I are pursuing. It s all about walking with the Lord one step at a time. He is meeting us where we are. He knows what step each of us is ready and prepared to take. All we can and should do is to heed and accept, as best we are able, God s personal and intimate guidance& <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace: none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace: none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>& <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I don t know to what extent, if any, this #4 Newsletter is a direct response to my recent response to your #3 Newsletter or not. Although it is obvious that several of your Ellen White quotes are identically the same or very similar quotations as I used in one of my recent letters to you, I certainly do not hold it as impossible or even unlikely that the Lord of Hosts did lead you to write all of your Newsletters, including this 4<sup>th</sup> one even before you sent me any one of them? But be that as it may, I find the content of this #4 Newsletter of yours very much to the point and with a very important message indeed, particularly as it relates to how Ellen White positions herself, in her writings, relative to the positions taken by others among the Advent movement and our pioneers re 1843 and 1844.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I would suggest, yes, even urge you, however, to pursue your contention even one step further, that is, your contention re your claims that the quoted 1844 references on the EGW-CD are edits and not Ellen White s original writing. Yes, you ve approached the White Estate, and you ve received a general answer. That is a good beginning, but why contend yourself with that? You need a <i><u>specific</u></i> first hand response. I have no reason to doubt but that the White Estate has, and is able to produce for you (upon your direct request,) copies of the relevant original hand writings of Ellen White. I see no reason why each and all among your readership should each for themselves alone approach the White Estate with such a request, do you? That is, knowing also that probably a large portion of your readership may not even be aware of having such an option open to them. It seems to me, that it is in your interest, even that you owe it to your readership, to bring forwards such proof  or else the absence of it and thus proof to the contrary  and to provide to each of us the results of such a pursuit of yours, or don t you agree? M. L. Andreasen, one of our SDA official leaders did so in personally visiting the home of Ellen White in Elmshaven in 1909 (cf. the report of that event at <a href="http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/books/andreasen/10.htm">this link</a>,) and, although I do not immediately recall where I read about it, I do seem to recall that others have accomplished similar pursuits successfully by addressing the White Estate or else by personally visiting the archives of the Ellen White Estate for themselves. In fact, I wouldn t be surprised if you can easily accomplish this yourself in Loma Linda at the White Estate section of the LLU Library? <span style='color:red'>Perhaps you ll even find time to do so this very day, this Friday, this Preparation Day& ?</span> I ll be eagerly looking forwards to hearing about the results of such a pursuit of yours!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>And <span class=SpellE>oooooh</span> yes, thank you ever so much for sharing your story behind your pursuit!&nbsp; Most especially my heart was touched by your words re how you conditionally accepted God s calling for you, that is, your words  <span style='color:#0070C0'>I said  Yes </span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;color:#0070C0'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:#0070C0'> to God, if He would promise that my relationship with my wife and my boys would not suffer.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family: "Comic Sans MS"'> No doubt, knowing me as you do, you can well understand why those words of yours really struck a chord within my heart?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><br> Until next, have a most happy Sabbath with your wife and with your family<span class=GramE>,</span><br> <br> Your friend and Brother in Messiah,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Gunnar <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>PS. Beyond that, as I am currently pursuing some work of assistance on a new Swedish translation of The Great Controversy, I came upon these words last night:<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Original words attached to the last picture in Chapter 22: <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'> His Spirit still abode with those who did not rashly deny the light which they had received, and denounce the advent movement. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>My suggested translation (Notice that not all picture texts are direct quotations out of the original GC text, though many are, to a large extent<span class=GramE>& :</span>)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=SV style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:SV'> Hans Ande frblev nnu hos dem som inte i sin brdska frnekade det ljus som de hade ftt och som inte nedvrderade adventrrelsen - och de stndiga lrdomar p vgen mot Guds rike vilka r knutna till den rrelsen. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=SV style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:SV'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Well, perhaps the <span class=GramE>meaning of those words are</span> pertinent to our present pursuit, or don t you agree?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right; line-height:normal'><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family: "Comic Sans MS"'>Without recourse.</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'> All Rights Reserved. PowerfulChoices <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span style='color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span class=SpellE><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Frn</span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> tobyjoreteg@gmail.com [mailto:tobyjoreteg@gmail.com] <b>Fr </b>Toby Joreteg<br> <span class=SpellE><b>Skickat</b></span><b>:</b> Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:24 PM<br> <span class=SpellE><b>mne</b></span><b>:</b> Daniel's Messiah #4<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 10.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 10.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Dear friends,</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Here comes the fourth newsletter. You can read it below, it is attached as a PDF file or you can go to my website: <a href="http://www.TobyJoreteg.com">www.TobyJoreteg.com</a> and read/print it. I pray that you will be blessed and drawn closer to GOD'S WORD.</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Toby Joreteg</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><a href="http://www.TobyJoreteg.com">www.TobyJoreteg.com</a></span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Newsletter: #4</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing align=center style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center'><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Ellen White and 1844</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If you have read the previous three newsletters about Daniel 8:19, 13, 14 and  The Time of Jesus Ministry&quot; you have seen how the core of Daniel 8 refers to Daniel s Messiah. Daniel 8 focuses on Jesus first coming just like Daniel 9 does.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>A Testimony</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>You may be wondering saying: Why is it so different from what I have been taught before? Yes, it is different. I shared it with you because God asked me to. He opened my eyes to see the beautiful and simple message in this prophecy that we rate as  difficult. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> <span class=GramE>Let</span> me share with you how it all happened.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In August of 1997 I opened my Bible to Daniel 12 and cried out in a serious prayer to the Lord. I told God in my prayer that I had read 10 books on Daniel 10-12 and that the 10 authors all portrayed the  bad guy </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> in Daniel 11 differently. The last book I read made me feel really disillusioned.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The author of that book believed that the evil emperor in Daniel 11 was Communism. But in a foot note I read a different explanation. There it said that communism just fell so therefore the author changed his mind to believe it was Saddam Hussein.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The problem is that just a few years later, Saddam Hussein is also gone! What do we do? Well, many go to the news media to try to find somebody else who fits the description. Personally I believe that is exactly how we should NOT interpret prophecy.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>God s Answer to My Prayer</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>God surprised me by answering my prayer. He spoke three very short sentences to me. The first was:  Write it down! </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> <span class=GramE>What</span> should I write? How would I find time to write? I had a fulltime job as a cardiologist at Loma Linda University Medical Center. I also had a wife and two young sons. I said  Yes </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> to God, if He would promise that my relationship with my wife and my boys would not suffer. God kept His promise. During this time our family enjoyed special blessings.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Three months later my book on Daniel and the Visions was completed. This was the most inspiring time of my life. Before I sat down to write I had no clue as to what would come. No thoughts or concepts were in my head. No new understanding had come to me. But as soon as I put my hands on the keyboard it was there. I couldn t write fast enough. This happened every time.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The journey started with Daniel 12:1 and God took me through the chapter verse by verse. Most of the time, I was given full understanding as I wrote. Sometimes I had to read several verses before the concept that God gave me became clear. When I came to the end of the chapter I asked the Lord where to go next. The answer was Daniel 9:1.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Soon Daniel 9, 10 and 11 were finished and with tears in my eyes and incredible joy I saw that the last verse of Daniel 11 fit perfectly into Daniel 12:1. After that I continued with Daniel 8 and lastly the rest of the prophecies in the Aramaic portion of Daniel, i.e. chapters 2, 4 and 7.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>God s Word</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Back to the beginning of my testimony: God had asked me to write. The second thing He said was to  Forget all that you have learned. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <span class=GramE>That</span> was easy. I didn t know much. That is why I had prayed in the first place. I realized that God needed me to start with a  clean </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> slate. The house He was going to build needed a new foundation. Jesus says that new wine needs to be put into new wineskins. Otherwise both the new wine and the old wineskin will be destroyed. Afterwards I can see that not everything that I had been taught on these matters was wrong but it was extremely important that I leave all preconceived ideas and predetermined thoughts behind to ONLY listen to God.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The third thing God said was to  Always give Him the glory and honor. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <span class=GramE>That</span> is what I am doing by telling you the story of how this all came about. God gave it to me! It is not my product. Now, I am not telling you to blindly believe everything I say. I am encouraging you to be a Berean and to prayerfully study the Word for yourself. The Holy Spirit of God will lead you into all Truth. Thank you for bearing with me through this rather lengthy introduction. I felt it necessary to give you my testimony.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>What about Ellen White?</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>But now you say: What should I do with this new message? God does not change! The understanding that He gave to Ellen White cannot be ignored or wrong! You are right. God does not change. The rest of this newsletter will focus on what E.G. White has written on the topic of 1844. I would like to show you what I have found and then let you decide what you want to do with it.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have a CD with all E. G. White s published writings. I have studied it carefully. If you also have, I m sure you have noticed the following: If Mrs. White used a certain word or phrase, let s say 100 times in all her writings, this word does not occur in 100 different circumstances with different expressions. No, usually we find a handful of examples that are repeated over and over again. In reality you may find one expression used let s say 25 times, the second maybe 20, the third 15 times and so on. The reason for this is obvious. Once she had understood something that she wanted to convey, she repeated it over and over again in different books and letters. </span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Quite often Ellen White used phrases like  I was shown, </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>  I saw, </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>  the Lord showed me, </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'> etc. Because of the unde</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>rstanding God had given me regarding the 2,300 evening-and-morning-prophecy, I was especially interested in finding out, if Ellen White had used any of the phrases I just mentioned in conjunction with the year 1844. I made some interesting observations. The year  1844 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> is found 610 times on the CD with E. G. White s writings. Only 66 of these 610 are in conjunction with the phrases  I was shown, </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> etc. It gets more interesting:</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>55 of these 66 have nothing to do with the interpretation of Daniel 8.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>7 of the 66 proclaim the 1844  Shut-Door-Message. </span><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Our pioneers held on to the  Shut-Door-Message </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> for a couple of years until they realized that God continued to save people. Our church has since officially disregarded the  Shut-Door-Message </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> in spite of the fact that Mrs. White used the words  I was shown, </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> etc. The door of salvation is still open! Praise God!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>4 quotations deal with the understanding of the Daniel 8 prophecy.</span></span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thus, Mrs. White uses the phrase  I was shown </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> or  I saw, </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> etc. only in 4 instances out of 610 when speaking about 1844. That is remarkable! Furthermore, most of the time when she mentions 1844 she writes in the third person, like: <i>They</i> understood, <i>It</i> was understood, <i>they</i> believed, etc. It appears that Ellen White put herself outside <i>their</i> understanding of 1844 many times.&nbsp; </span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Editing</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>As you have seen in the previous newsletters, it is Jesus Christ and the cross that fulfill the prophecy of Daniel 8. (Not the Advent movement!). I want to show you something very interesting that I found in one of the  1844 quotes </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> on my E. G. White CD. Before we read it I want to make you aware of how beautifully she describes what took place at the cross. Let s read:</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> As Jesus died on Calvary, He cried, &quot;It is finished,&quot; and the veil of the temple was rent in twain, from the top to the bottom. This was to show that the services of the earthly sanctuary were forever finished, and that God would no more meet with the priests in their earthly temple, to accept their sacrifices. The blood of Jesus was then shed, which was to be offered by <span class=GramE>Himself</span> in the heavenly sanctuary. <b>As the priest entered the most holy once a year to cleanse the earthly sanctuary, so Jesus entered the most holy of the heavenly, at the end of the 2300 days of Daniel 8</b>, in 1844, <b>to make a final atonement</b> for all who could be benefited by His mediation, and thus to cleanse the sanctuary. </span></i><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span></i><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> {EW 253.1} </span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>(Bold print is mine)</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>All fits to the cross -- except the phrase  in 1844 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> which to me looks like an edited insert. I was intrigued by this and decided to contact the White Estate to ask if anything had been edited in this particular paragraph. They kindly responded that yes, editing takes place, but they did not answer specifically regarding this quotation. I leave it to you, dear reader, to decide if this is the normal way of writing or if this is an example of editing by someone else at a later point. (Usually the White Estate clearly shows its comments by adding capitalized text within brackets.)</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I personally am convinced that it is an edited paragraph and I will believe so until proven wrong. Without  in 1844 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> it makes perfect sense and clearly refers to what Christ accomplished at the cross. Below is another quotation with the year 1844 where the same editing issue seems probable, actually quite obvious.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> In the ministration of the earthly tabernacle, which served &quot;unto the example and shadow of heavenly things,&quot; the holy of holies was opened only upon the great day of atonement, the typical day of judgment, set apart for the cleansing of the sanctuary. Therefore the announcement, &quot;The temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament,&quot; points to the opening of the most holy place of the heavenly sanctuary<b>, at the end of the twenty-three hundred days,--in 1844,--as Christ entered there to perform the closing work</b> of the atonement. Those who by faith followed their great High Priest, as he entered upon his ministry in the most holy place, beheld the ark of the testament. </span></i><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri'></span></i><span class=GramE><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp; {</span></i></span><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>RH, November 9, 1905 par. 10} </span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>(Bold print is mine)</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></i></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The way of writing  <b>,--in 1844,--</b> is certainly not commonly used by Ellen White.<i> </i>I will be brave to say that no one writes that way. The use of both comma and hyphen around  1844 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> is therefore a strong indication of editing done by someone else at a later time. Without this insert, the sentence makes perfect sense.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The 1843 Chart </span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>When it comes to the 1843 chart there are more interesting things to discover. There are a total of 152 quotations from the CD with Ellen White referring to 1843. Of these 152 quotations:</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>121 have nothing to do with the 2,300-day prophecy.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>25 refer to the 2,300-day prophecy</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>1 uses the phrase  I saw </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>6 quotations are in capitalized letters indicating that they are written by the White Estate.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In 2 instances of 152 Mrs. White says that God had  provided </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> the 1843 chart. In another one, quoted below, she says that  God was in </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> the proclamation of 1843. Thus I found 4 quotations where she wants us to see the  stamp of God. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> <span class=GramE>Let s</span> read this one:</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></i></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <b>I saw</b> <b>that God was in the proclamation of the time in 1843</b>. It was His design to arouse the people and bring them to a <b>testing point</b>, where they should decide for or against the truth. {EW 232.2}</span></i><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>(Bold print is mine)</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></i></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Here she  saw something that no Adventist believes in any longer. Let s read one more statement and immediately you will find that we have more problems.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></i></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <b>The Lord showed me that the 1843 chart was directed by his hand</b>, and that no part of it should be altered; that the figures were as he wanted them. That <b>his hand</b> was over and hid a <b>mistake in some of the figures</b>, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed. </span></i><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span></i><span class=GramE><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp; {</span></i></span><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>RH, November 1, 1850 par. 10} </span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>(Bold print is mine)</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Firstly she says that the Lord had shown her that the 1843 chart was directed by God s hand. With this statement she gives the chart her approval and uses God as the proof. Secondly,  no part of it should be altered. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> If the  figures were as he wanted them, </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> it is to say that the figures were correct and that nothing should be changed.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This stands in sharp contrast to the next sentence where God used His hand to hide  a mistake in some of the figures. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> Please notice, figures in plural! Up to this point I have not found any instance in which Ellen White tells us what this mistake was. Furthermore, she was not the one who realized the mistake in the 1843 chart: </span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Jesus and <span class=GramE>all the</span> heavenly host looked with sympathy and love upon those who had with sweet expectation longed to see Him whom their souls loved. Angels were hovering around them, to sustain them in the hour of their trial. Those who had neglected to receive the heavenly message were left in darkness, and God s anger was kindled against them, because they would not receive the light, which He had sent them from heaven. Those faithful, disappointed ones, who could not understand why their Lord did not come, were not left in darkness. Again <b><u>they</u></b> were led to their Bibles to search the prophetic periods<b>. The hand of the Lord was removed from the figures, and the mistake was explained. <u>They saw</u> that the prophetic periods reached to 1844</b>, and that the same evidence which <b><u>they</u></b> had presented to show that the prophetic periods closed in 1843, proved that they would terminate in 1844. Light from the Word of God shone upon <b><u>their</u> position</b>, and <b><u>they</u> discovered</b> a tarrying time--&quot;Though it [the vision] tarry, wait for it. In their love for Christ s immediate coming, <b><u>they</u> had overlooked</b> the tarrying of the vision, which was calculated to manifest the true waiting ones. Again they had a point of time. Yet I saw that many of them could not rise above their severe disappointment to possess that degree of zeal and energy, which had marked their faith in 1843. </span></i><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri'></span></i><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> {EW 236.1} </span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>(Bold print and under linings are mine)<i> </i></span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Summary</span></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I find no proof in Ellen White s writings that our understanding of 1844 is a message from God!</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mrs. White claimed divine support both for the 1843 chart (4 times) and for 1844 (4 times)!</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> same phrases (about  God showing her) are used when she proclaimed the  Shut-Door-Message (7 times). </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> <span class=GramE>Today</span> our church has understood that this message was NOT from God.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-indent: -.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 1844-interpretation appears to have come from the pioneers and not from Ellen White! </span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I want to conclude by saying that I TRULY believe that Ellen White was a prophet of God. BUT I cannot emphasize strongly enough that we need to test everything that we read with the Bible. That is true for Ellen White s writings as well as for anyone's writings. Ellen White herself very clearly emphasized how important this is:</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 10.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><span class=GramE><i> God<b> </b>will have a people upon the earth to maintain the Bible, and the Bible only, as the standard of all doctrines, and the basis of all reform. </i></span><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span><b> {</b>GC 595.2}</i></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>We should be thankful for the many things that Ellen White understood, but we should never belittle the Word of God! Jesus Christ Himself IS the WORD OF GOD and He was very hard on human tradition, Mark 7:6-13. Everything THAT IS IN HARMONY with the Word of God IS FROM GOD. Anything that is NOT IN HARMONY with the Word of God is NOT OF GOD. This is a very simple rule that fits in all circumstances.</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing align=center style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Test all things; hold fast what is good </span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri'></span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> (1 Thess.5:21)</span></i></b></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span lang=SV style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language: SV'>Toby Joreteg, MD, PhD</span><span lang=SV style='mso-ansi-language:SV'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span lang=SV style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-ansi-language: SV'>Loma Linda</span><span lang=SV style='mso-ansi-language:SV'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.TobyJoreteg.com">www.TobyJoreteg.com</a></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt;margin-bottom: 10.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:68.25pt; margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-align:right'><span class=GramE>Without recourse.</span> All Rights Reserved. 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