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Amen.
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We can surmise from the observation and experience of Job in this chapter that no matter how upstanding and righteous we are, trouble will come to us. Job lamented "I was not in safety, neither had I rest, neither was I quiet, yet trouble came". (Job 3:26) Father help us to endure these trying time when they come. In Jesus give us the resolve of Job. Amen
Thank you Lord for your Holy Word.
Amen, praise God.
Job laments his birth and wished he had not been born. Our prayer today is: Lord, whatever the problems facing us, grant us grace to see your purpose for our lives that we may live accordingly.
Amen and so say I. Lord take us to a higher level in our Christian walk with you so our faith won't give in.
Amen !
Thanks Mr. Koot,
Job Curses the Day he was Born Instead of Cursing God, Let's Learn Great Lesson!
There is just one thing we have to take note as we journey through the
book of Job and that is found in the saying "in all these Job did not
sin".
Remember that the contest between God and Satan is determined
to know whether Job will sin. In Chapter 3 Job was careful not to utter
any word against God.
Satan would have claimed to be righteous more than God.
We need to know that Satan was really still accessing the presence of God in
heaven before the coming of Jesus Christ to this earth and was still claiming its king. He was still
claiming that God was unjust while he (Satan) was right. Until Christ
death on the cross which truly manifested the true character of God.
That's why it is written "for God so loved the word......" and the
apostle can now declare that "God is love" Satan is defeated forever.
Christ's Incarnation, ministry, death, resurrection and ascension
ultimately echo forever that God is righteous. It will on the other
hand continue to condemn Satan as a sinner forever.
Christ said that he came to this earth to reveal the father and to make manifest the works of the enemy.really
Thanks Pastor for your comments...
Good morning and Happy Sabbath. As I think of Job losing his children the Lord reminded me of something. How about when we have a child who grew up knowing Jesus then refuses to follow him as they get older. That spiritual death can truly be worse than the physical. If we truly believe this is not our home, then there is a better place waiting for us. Of course no parent wants to see there child die physically. But to know they are connected to Jesus brings a peace that can't be explained. I wonder if Jobs children really knew God personaly? Considering he made sacrifice for them each morning. That must have tormented him as well. We can help our child physically but they have to choose to follow Jesus
There is still time brother.........train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. I was 60 years of age when I came back to the Lord. My father died before I surrendered. What a meeting that will be when I see him................. Praise the Lord
Amen!
Happy Sabbath friends, as we consider todays reading, we should know satan plot is to make doubt God's purpose for our existence, don't allow let him
With deep thought, most of us would have acted like Job, after thinking about our trials. Some of us are still doing this today, even when we claim to know the Lord. We are blessed to know the whole story of Job and that it is not God to be blamed. If we are not careful, we will complain when trials come our way during this life. Why, the adversary is delighted when we do this.
Heavenly Father, we Your people come to You for cleansing of our minds and hearts to make them new and refreshed. May we in times of trials and troubles be reminded by Your Holy Spirit that we are to look to You, knowing without a doubt that whatever we lose, You will restore in a way that we can never imagine. Keep us faithful to the end, in Jesus name, amen.
Happy Sabbath RBHW, May we all have a blessed Sabbath of rest, The Sabbath is so wonderful a time to think about what God did for us through the past week and give Him thanks
In all his perplexity Job did not cause God but rather wish that he was never born.
Amen Professor Wyk. Happy Sabbath RBHW family. In today's chapter, this verse arrested my attention concerning Job. "For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I was afraid of is come unto me." (Job 3:25) I believe this statement above all others in this chapter gives us insight into what was possibly tainting Job's faith walk with God. Yes, Job was a perfect and upright man according to scripture. (Job 1:1, Job Job 1:8, Job 2:3) Yet, careful examination of other collaborating scriptures would seem to suggest that his perfection was not flawlessness. Here is an example: "I made a covenant with mine eyes; why then should I think upon a maid?" (Job 31:1) Remember, Job was a married man and this revelation from the scriptures suggests that he possibly struggled with the sin of the "lust of the eyes." (1 John 2:16) King David was a man after God's own heart (1 Sam 13:14) yet lurking deep within David was a flaw (sin) of character. Abraham was father of the faithful; yet, even he had a flaw (sin) of character. (Genesis 12:13). How can all these men be accounted perfect by God when the scriptures reveal plainly their character flaws? Our prophet EGW makes this wonderful but powerful statement that we all need to internalize. "The work of gaining salvation is one of copartnership, a joint operation. There is to be co-operation between God and the repentant sinner. This is necessary for the formation of right principles in the character. Man is to make earnest efforts to overcome that which hinders him from attaining to perfection. But he is wholly dependent upon God for success. Human effort of itself is not sufficient. Without the aid of divine power it avails nothing. God works and man works. Resistance of temptation must come from man, who must draw his power from God. On the one side there is infinite wisdom, compassion, and power; on the other, weakness, sinfulness, absolute helplessness. {AA 482.2} Notice that our prophet says what we need to realize is our "absolute helplessness." Could it be that the only way Job could attain unto the perfection that God would have him attain was to confront the fear that lurked deeply in his soul? Perhaps Job's "absolute helplessness" could not truly be realized until God in his infinite wisdom allowed Job to pass through that unpleasant experience. "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. (Matthew 5:48) How does the realization of our "absolute helplessness" help us obey this command of our Lord especially in light of the fears that we all have like Job? It is written: "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love." (1 John 4:18) Lord, like Job we all may have fears that bring us torment of soul. Please let thy perfect love cast out all fear & doubt that our love may be made perfect in thee. Lord, help us to daily realize our absolute helplessness that we may draw strength from thy absolute perfection. We humbly ask this in thy name this Sabbath we pray, Amen. Beloved, I leave you all this Sabbath with these words of comfort and hope.
"Christ, our Saviour, in whom dwelt absolute perfection, became sin for the fallen race. He did not know sin by the experience of sinning, but He bore the terrible weight of the guilt of the whole world. He became our propitiation, that all who receive Him may become sons of God. The cross was erected to save man. Christ lifted on the cross was the means devised in heaven for awakening in the repenting soul a sense of the sinfulness of sin. By the cross Christ sought to draw all to Himself. He died as the only hope of saving those who, because of sin, were in the gall of bitterness. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit, a new principle of mental and spiritual power was to be brought to man, who, through association with divinity, was to become one with God. {UL 191.3} On many the Word of God has lost its impression because of the prevalence of the disregard of His law. As God’s chosen people we are to be in every sense what He desires us to be. We are to render strict obedience to the law spoken by Christ from Sinai. This law is God’s standard of character, and there can be no comparison between it and anything the human mind can frame. It is an unchangeable standard of absolute perfection, set up by the infinite God. Unaided, the human mind cannot comprehend it. An expression of the character of God, it is as high as heaven and beyond measurement in its power to sanctify. {21MR 409.6}
Amen, is very important....
When we walk with the Lord in the light of His Word,
What a glory He sheds on our way!
While we do His good will, He abides with us still,
And with all who will trust and obey.
Refrain:
Trust and obey, for there’s no other way
To be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey.
Not a shadow can rise, not a cloud in the skies,
But His smile quickly drives it away;
Not a doubt or a fear, not a sigh or a tear,
Can abide while we trust and obey.
Not a burden we bear, not a sorrow we share,
But our toil He doth richly repay;
Not a grief or a loss, not a frown or a cross,
But is blessed if we trust and obey.
But we never can prove the delights of His love
Until all on the altar we lay;
For the favor He shows, for the joy He bestows,
Are for them who will trust and obey.
Then in fellowship sweet we will sit at His feet,
Or we’ll walk by His side in the way;
What He says we will do, where He sends we will go;
Never fear, only trust and obey.
For me Job ever remains my mentor because he went through thick and thin and yet continued to put all his trust in God. Times may be hard but we ought to lean upon His promises. Happy Sabbath friends. God loves you all!!!
I was also reminded of the lyrics to the song Blessings by Laura Story:
We pray for blessings, we pray for peace
Comfort for family, protection while we sleep
We pray for healing, for prosperity
We pray for Your mighty hand to ease our suffering
And all the while, You hear each spoken need
Yet love us way too much to give us lesser things
'Cause what if your blessings come through rain drops
What if Your healing comes through tears
What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near
What if trials of this life are Your mercies in disguise
We pray for wisdom, Your voice to hear
We cry in anger when we cannot feel You near
We doubt your goodness, we doubt your love
As if every promise from Your word is not enough
And all the while, You hear each desperate plea
And long that we'd have faith to believe
'Cause what if your blessings come through rain drops
What if Your healing comes through tears
What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near
What if trials of this life are Your mercies in disguise
When friends betray us
When darkness seems to win
We know that pain reminds this heart
That this is not,
This is not our home
It's not our home
'Cause what if your blessings come through rain drops
What if Your healing comes through tears
What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near
What if my greatest disappointments or the aching of this life
Is the revealing of a greater thirst this world can't satisfy
What if trials of this life
The rain, the storms, the hardest nights
Are your mercies in disguise
What a chapter filled with lessons!
One of those lessons that God spoke to me this morning is to remember the blessings and not focus on the challenges of life. In reading through the Testimonies for the Church, volume 3, there was a section written to someone who lost a loved one and was repining and complaining of the loss -- the section is filled with very good counsel. May we praise our loving Heavenly Father always!
As the benefits conferred upon His creatures by our heavenly Father are recounted, do you not feel reproved for your ungrateful repinings? For a number of years He lent you a daughter and sister, until you began to regard her as yours and felt that you had a right to this good gift. God heard your murmurings. If there was a cloud in sight, you seemed to forget that the sun ever shone; and clouds and darkness were ever about you. God sent you affliction; He removed your treasure from you that you might discern between prosperity and real sorrow. But you did not subdue your hearts before Him and repent of the great sin of ingratitude which had separated you from His love. Like Job, you felt that you had cause for grief, and would not be comforted. Was this reasonable? You know that death is a power that none can resist; but you have made your lives nearly useless by your unavailing grief. Your feelings have been little less than rebellion against God. I saw you all dwelling upon your bereavement, and giving way to your excitable feelings, until your noisy demonstrations of grief caused angels to hide their faces and withdraw from the scene. {5T 312.4}
Amen, thank you and to each one a Blessed Sabbath day.
On this Sabbath day may we take time to talk with God, praise His Name, and give thanks for His blessings. Job reached a point where he believed his life was worthless and he should never have been born. Yet, God listens waiting for him to be silent so He may speak. This is true in our lives as we may ask why, why, why? We do not take time to listen to His gentle voice in the breeze, the gentle drops of rain which provides growth for our sustenance. God speaks, my child I love you, I hold you in My arms. Reach out to me for I am by your side. You may not see it at this moment but these trials will strengthen you. Be faithful, trust in me, reach out to others who are hurting for I have born your sins. Do not despair for I will always provide a way out. I love you my child. How much do you ask? Here are my hands. Happy Sabbath RBHW family.
Our enemy is real brethren! Look at how far he pushed brother Job! Job in this passage is not even desirous of being alive! This enemy 'Leviathan' will be consumed as recorded in the book of Isaiah 27. He (Leviathan) as we will realize has the characteristics and features of Satan in the later chapters of Job. (cap 41 compare with Eze 28).
The daily constant prayers Job used to offer to God, the close relationship that developed thereby, is solid and 'cushions' him in this very rough patch he is being taken through as he reminisces on his suffering.
Oh God our LORD, draw us near to you and we will be drawn, strengthen us and we will be strengthened, teach us your love and we will love you above everything else the way Job did, in Jesus' name, amen.
Amen Dr Bill, this is my earnest prayer too. Thank you
Let us go true life thanking God for the good things and bad things that we have to face ..for Job did not understand what was going on @ the beginning but later on he was bless with double of what he had first own and most of all what a privilege to had bean use as a faithful one foe God To show satan.
"Be still, and know that I am God." When troubles come, and they will, our ability to trust in God and the strength of our faith in Him is the measure of our dependance upon Him. It is during these troublesome times that our relationships with our Saviour is strengthened. Through faith and trust we learn to depend upon Him for all our needs, to see us through each trial and we develop a closer walk with Him. As the story of Job unfolds, it shows us how God is ever aware of our plight. We see the conflict in Heaven as well as Job's conflict. These stories have been given to us for a reason. The more we study and become familiar with the contents of God's Word, the better we will be able to develop our faith and trust in Him, for He has given us clear instructions to follow. That relationship that comes from getting to really know Someone is imperative. And only through study of God's Word can we truly get to know Him. Job knew God very well. My prayer is that we all develop that kind of relationship with our Saviour. It is a must if we are to survive the coming onslaught!
So true my dear sister. The trials in life will bring us close to the Maker. He is our only hope.
So many of us are nursing patches of doubt in the garden of our faith. This does keep us from becoming fully committed to God. And as He says in Rev 3: 25, "I would thou wert cold or hot," I believe He'd prefer if we faced up to these fears, anxieties and doubts; ask the hard questions, because He desires to reveal Himself and His will to us in a personal way. His invitation in Isa 1: 18 is, "Come, let us reason together."
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I do recall that fateful night, when surrounded by the utter darkness of seeing no way out, I did begin to seriously desire death. Before that thought develop to much however, thank God the Spirit urged me to pray. I did pray, and had my fears and anxieties instantly quelled. So after hours of sleeplessness I crawled into bed, slipped my cover on and slept like a carefree baby until morning.
Somehow, experiencing the darkness earthly living, seems to set a perfect stage to experience God in a marvelous way. So with Job the plot thickens as he's prepped for what is yet ahead.
Are we satisfied with life as it is, or is there a disquiet within our souls that only God can soothe? Discontent with earthly living is not a bad thing if through it you see the beckoning of a loving God who desires to bless you above all you can ask or imagine.
Thank you Lord for Your Grace, amen.
Amen brother.
I’ve appreciated all comments including brother Koot’s Sabbath connections to Job 3. This is quite an unusual take on Job 3. I would like to add another indirect but interesting connection to the Sabbath – particularly the Sabbath controversy and it comes right out of Job 3 – but not as one would expect… I’m sorry it’s a long post but it will be worthwhile :-)
The translators of the KJV had considerable difficulty when it came to translating Job 3: 8. The difficulty in translation was not due to any ambiguity in the original language. The difficulty they had was with the potential repercussions of a correct translation of Job’s own words. So rather than give opportunity to the potential for misunderstandings they opted to arbitrarily alter the language of the text so that it would convey a meaning in English that had nothing to do with what Job had actually written. Here’s the KJV on verse 8.
“Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to raise up their mourning”
A brief review of various Bible Commentaries immediately demonstrates the difficulty with the rendition of Job 3:8 provided by the KJV translators.
“This is a very puzzling text”. SDA BC
“This is not very intelligible” Barnes
“This translation is scarcely intelligible” Clarke
The SDA BC comment on the term “mourning” has this to say:
“Mourning. Literally, “leviathan.” The sentence should read, “who are ready to rouse up leviathan.”
So “mourning” has nothing to do with the passage in question and the SDA BC translates vs. 8 just like our NKJV reads. So what is the issue? Why would the original KJV translators be queer about the correct translation? Well Barnes puts this way: “This is not very intelligible, and it is evident that our translators were embarrassed by the passage”. So why would they be “embarrassed by the passage”? Well the short answer is that at first glance of a correct translation Job seems to be giving an approving nod to mythological practices.
To be sure - Job isn’t sanctioning such practices but we first need a summary of Job 3:8.
Job 3:8 “May those curse it who curse the day, those who are ready to arouse Leviathan”
Summary:
Evidently Job is referring to some well-known class of persons, “who cursed days” NIV.
This well-known class of persons who could furnish such a request were sorcerers.
The specific day that Job desired a curse to rest upon was the day or date of his birth.
These sorcerers were supposed to have the power to render a day favourable or unfavourable.
These sorcerers would themselves require the aid of the greatest and most eminent of all the forces of evil; Leviathan – the seven-headed serpent / dragon.
Ancient mythology had a dragon being that was the enemy of the sun and moon (heavenly bodies given for light and for times and seasons).
This mythological being was endowed with the power to generate eclipses that could both block out the light of day and provided the visible token of the curse.
Darkness generated by an eclipse was seen as a catastrophe in the ancient world and a sign of a curse or bad omen in its own right.
Job does not say that the sorcerers had the power they claimed; but, supposing they had the power, Job says may they curse the day of his birth. This really expresses the depths of Job’s sorrow and anguish at the loss of all that meant anything to him. So Job is not endorsing the use of magical practices - but once we have the correct translation and then see the
appropriate interpretation of the passage one does find themselves caught up in some explaining to avoid implicating Job in belief in mythology. This is really another question about the Hebrew or Christian faith becoming corrupted because of use of pagan mythology. I’ll add so commentary later that should help anyone looking at this issue but for now don’t be distracted by this question as we’re coming to an important insight into the great controversy between Christ and Satan particularly the issue over the Sabbath vs. Sunday conflict.
The SDA BC gives us an adequate background to the passage with all the necessary caveats.
"8. Let them curse. This is a very puzzling text. Many commentators believe that Job was invoking the aid of sorcerers, “cursers of the day,” individuals who claimed to be able to bring curses on specific days. If this interpretation is correct, it does not follow that Job believed in such sorcerers. He merely recognized their existence, and in the language of
poetry, he wished that there might be heaped on the night of his conception not only real evils but those that were imaginary. Clarke sees in the “cursers of the day” those who detest the day—those who hate daylight, such as adulterers, murderers, thieves, and bandits, for whose practices the night is more fitting."
"Mourning. Literally, “leviathan.” The sentence should read, “who are ready to rouse up leviathan.” Those who apply the first line of the verse to the sorcerers see in the added line a further reference to the power of these sorcerers to rouse up leviathan. Ancient mythology had a great dragon who was the enemy of the sun and moon, and who was supposed to
have power over eclipses. It seems unreasonable to believe that Job had any faith in such powers. If he is referring to mythology, he is doing so only to provide a vivid poetic figure." SDA BC, Volume 3 (506).
The briefest research into Leviathan will show that in ancient Canaanite mythology “leviathan” was regarded as a seven-headed serpent / dragon who was the enemy of the sun and moon and who was supposed to have power over eclipses. Leviathan was said to be a personification of the forces of evil and fight against the forces of right.
Every student of prophecy should have bells going off as Revelation pictures Satan as a great red serpent / dragon, having seven heads (Rev. 12:3, cf. vs.14), and declares that “Michael and his angels fought against the dragon” and that “the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world” (Rev.12:7, 9).
Adventist’s have long interpreted the triune powers of the Dragon, Beast and false prophet as those systems controlled by Satan in an onslaught against God’s commandments, particularly the fourth commandment – the Sabbath day (mark of the Beast – Rev. 13) How remarkable that Job refers to a seven-headed serpent / dragon with power to curse days and blot them from the calendar (Job 3:6). The implications of John’s seven-headed serpent / dragon are clear. If one wanted to remove the remembrance of a day from the calendar (namely the Sabbath day) who would one call upon in the ancient world to accomplish such a task? Job answers this for us – you call upon Leviathan, the seven-headed serpent / dragon that has power to render a day unpropitious.
For those of you wanting further information about the issue of Job’s reference to mythology I’d recommend scanning through various commentaries including SDA BC,Barnes, Clarke, JFB and Keil & Delitzsch. They should clear this matter up.
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Here are the commentaries I promised to post - they all make a significant contribution in discovering Job 3:8. Be blessed...
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Barnes: Job 3:8 - Let them curse it who curse the day - This entire verse is exceedingly difficult, and many different expositions have been given of it. It seems evident that it refers to some well-known class of persons, who were accustomed to utter imprecations (Curses), and were supposed to have the power to render a day propitious or unpropitious - persons who had the power of divination or enchantment. A belief in such a power existed early in the world, and has prevailed in all savage and semi-barbarous nations, and even in nations considerably advanced in civilization. The origin of this was a desire to look into futurity; and in order to accomplish this, a league was supposed to be made with the spirits of the dead, who were acquainted with the events of the invisible world, and who could be prevailed on to impart their knowledge to favored mortals. It was supposed, also, that by such union there might be a power exerted which would appear to be miraculous.
Such persons also claimed to be the favorites of heaven, and to be endowed with control over the elements, and over the destiny of men; to have the power to bless and to curse, to render propitious or calamitous. Balsaam was believed to be
endowed with this power, and hence, he was sent for by Balak, king of Moab, to curse the Israelites; Num_22:5-6; see
the notes at Isa_8:19. The practice of cursing the day, or cursing the sun, is said by Herodotus to have prevailed among a people of Africa, whom he calls the Atlantes, living in the vicinity of Mount Atlas. “Of all mankind,” says he, “of whom we have any knowledge, the Atlantes alone have no distinction of names; the body of the people are termed Atlantes, but their individuals have no appropriate appellation. When the sun is at the highest they heap on it reproaches and execrations, because their country and themselves are parched by its rays; book iv. 184. The same account of them is found in Pliny, Nat. His. v. 8: Solem orientem occidentemque dira imprecatione contuentur, ut exitialem ipsis agrisque. See also Strabo, Lib. xvii. p. 780. Some have supposed, also, that there may be an allusion here to a custom which seems early to have prevailed of hiring people to mourn for the dead, and who probably in their official lamentation bewailed or cursed the day of their calamity; compare Jer_9:17; 2Ch_35:25. But the correct interpretation is doubtless that which refers it to pretended prophets, priests, or diviners - who were supposed to have power to render a day one of ill omen. Such a power Job wished exerted over that unhappy night when he was born. He desired that the curses of those who had power to render a day unpropitious or unlucky,
should rest upon it.
Who are ready to raise up their mourning - This is not very intelligible, and it is evident that our translators were embarrassed
by the passage. They seem to have supposed that there was an allusion here to the practice of employing professional mourners, and that the idea is, that Job wished that they might be employed to howl over the day as inauspicious, or as a day of ill omen. The margin is, as in the Hebrew, “a leviathan.” The word rendered “ready” עתידים ‛âthı̂ydı̂ym, means properly ready, prepared; and then practiced or skillful. This is the idea here, that they were practiced or skillful in calling up the “leviathan;” see Schultens “in loc.” The word rendered in the text “mourning,” and in the margin “leviathan” לויתן lı̂vyâthân, in all other parts of the sacred Scriptures denotes an animal; see it explained in the notes at Isa_27:1, and more fully in the notes at Job 41: It usually denotes the crocodile, or some huge sea monster.
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Clarke: Job 3:8 - Let them curse it that curse the day - This translation is scarcely intelligible. I have waded through a multitude of interpretations, without being able to collect from them such a notion of the verse as could appear to me probable. Schultens, Rosenmüller, and after them Mr. Good, have labored much to make it plain. They think the custom of sorcerers who had execrations for peoples, places, things, days, etc., is here referred to; such as Balaam, Elymas, and many others were: but I cannot think that a man who knew the Divine Being and his sole government of the world so well as Job did, would make such an allusion, who must have known that such persons and their pretensions were impostors and execrable vanities. I shall give as near a translation as I can of the words, and subjoin a short paraphrase: יקבהו אררי יום העתידימערר לויתן yikkebuhu orerey yom haathidim orer livyathan; “Let them curse it who detest the day; them who are ready to raise up the leviathan.” That is, Let them curse my birthday who hate daylight, such as adulterers, murderers, thieves, and banditti, for whose practices the night is more convenient; and let them curse it who, being like me weary of life, are desperate enough to provoke the leviathan, the crocodile, to tear them to pieces. This version is nearly the same as that given by
Coverdale. Let them that curse the daye give it their curse also, then those that be ready to rayse up leviathan. By leviathan some understand the greatest and most imminent dangers; and others, the devil, whom the enchanters are desperate
enough to attempt to raise by their incantations. Calmet understands the whole to be spoken of the Atlantes, a people of Ethiopia, who curse the sun because it parches their fields and their bodies; and who fearlessly attack, kill, and eat the crocodile. This seems a good sense.
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JFB: Job 3:8 - them ...curse the day — If “mourning” be the right rendering in the latter clause of this verse, these words refer to the hired mourners of the dead (Jer_9:17). But the Hebrew for “mourning” elsewhere always denotes an animal, whether it be the crocodile or some huge serpent (Isa_27:1), such as is meant by “leviathan.” Therefore, the expression, “cursers of day,” refers to magicians, who were believed to be able by charms to make a day one of evil omen. (So Balaam, Num_22:5). This accords with Umbreit’s view (Job_3:7); or to the Ethiopians and Atlantes, who “used to curse the sun at his rising for burning up them and their country” [Herodotus]. Necromancers claimed power to control or rouse wild beasts at will, as do the Indian serpent-charmers of our day (Psa_58:5). Job does not say they had the power they claimed; but, supposing they had, may they curse the day. Schuttens renders it by supplying words as follows: - Let those that are ready for anything, call it (the day) the raiser up of leviathan, that is, of a host of evils.
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Keil & Delitzsch Commentary on the Old Testament: Job 3:6-9 - “Those who curse days” are magicians who know how to change days into dies infausti by their incantations. According to vulgar superstition, from which the imagery of Job_3:8 is borrowed, there was a special art of exciting the dragon, which is the enemy of sun and moon, against them both, so that, by its devouring them, total darkness prevails. The dragon is called in Hindu râhu; the Chinese, and also the natives of Algeria,
even at the present day make a wild tumult with drums and copper vessels when an eclipse of the sun or moon occurs, until the dragon will release his prey.
(Note: On the dragon râhu, that swallows up sun and moon, vid., Pott, in the Hallische Lit. Zeitschr. 1849, No. 199; on the custom of the Chinese, Käuffer, Das chinesische Volk, S. 123. A similar custom among the natives of Algeria I have read of in a newspaper (1856). Moreover, the clouds which conceal the sky the Indians represent as a serpent. It is ahi, the cloud-serpent, which Indra chases away when he divides the clouds with his lightning. Vid., Westergaard in Weber's Indischer Zeitschr. 1855, S. 417.)
Job wishes that this monster may swallow up the sun of his birth-day. If the night in which he was conceived or born is to become day, then let the stars of its twilight (i.e., the stars which, as messengers of the morning, twinkle through the twilight of dawn) become dark. It is to remain for ever dark, never behold with delight the eyelids of the dawn. בְּ רָאָה, to regale one's self with the sight of anything, refresh one's self. When the first rays of morning shoot up in the eastern sky, then the dawn raises its eyelids; they are in Sophocles's Antigone, 103, χρυσέης ἡμέρας βλέφαρον, the eyelid of the golden day, and therefore of the sun, the great eye.
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Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 17: Job 1-20 - After discussion of an alternative rendition the WBC continues as follows…It is preferable, then, to retain the Masoretic reading, even if it is “flatter” (Rowley), and see those who curse a day as “enchanters or magicians reputed to have the power to make days unlucky” (Driver), perhaps specifically by producing eclipses, which is what is referred to in the second colon. They can hardly be simply those who, like Job, curse the day of their birth (Dhorme), for such curses—being ex eventu—are by definition ineffectual. In wishing that the “cursers [ארר] of days had laid a spell [קבב]” on that night Job perhaps uses milder words (ארר “enchant, lay a magic spell on” [E. A. Speiser, “An Angelic ‘Curse’: Exodus 14:20,” JAOS 80 (1960) 198–200] and קבב “revile” [J. Scharbert, TDOT 1:415; Brichto, The Problem of “Curse,” 200–202]) than we might have supposed; in that case the meaning of קבב is like its sense at 5:3 “despise as something cursed.” Job wishes that the night of his conception had been ugly and ill-omened. It is no difficulty that it is “cursers of days” who are spoken of, for nights are parts of days; and they do not curse a particular day, but “certain days” (njb).
Leviathan usually figures in the OT as a violent sea-monster subdued by God in primeval times (Ps 74:14; Isa 27:1), but here it is plain that by incantations known to those “skilled” (עתיד) in magic the normally dormant monster is still regarded as
capable of being roused to activity (see C. H. Gordon, “Leviathan, Symbol of Evil,” P. W. Lown Institute Studies 3 [1966] 1–9). The particular activity, though not explicit, may well be the swallowing up of the sun or moon, i.e., the causing of eclipses; see T. H. Gaster, Myth, Legend, and Custom in the Old Testament (New York: Harper and Row, 1969) 787–88, for evidence of
such a belief from several cultures (and J. Day [God’s Conflict, 45] for a Ugaritic text [CTA 6.6.44–52; Gibson, 81] showing the sun and the sea-dragon to be enemies). Gaster discriminates between the popular belief in the dragon that swallows the sun and the literary mythology of the primeval monster who threatens order again in eschatological times (cf. Isa 27:1; Rev 20:1–3); it may be rather that the two ideas coalesce here (cf. further M. Fishbane, VT 21 [1971] 158–60). Leviathan is a monster that has only to be awoken from sleep or stirred into activity (עור can mean either, but not “control” [gnb] or “tame” [neb]) for its destructive power to be felt; the same verb is used in 41:2 [10] of the danger of “stirring up” Leviathan, where it is the crocodile that is depicted in mythological terms rather than the mythological creature itself. Any magician who can summon up the superhuman power of this unamiable being is a true professional. He would surely have the power to curse a day. But of course the day that Job wants to be cursed is long past, and his wish for professional assistance is entirely futile.
It is a mistake to see here Job invoking forces of chaos to destroy the created order (Habel) or articulating an “absolute and
unrestrained death wish for himself and the entire creation” (Fishbane, VT 21 [1971] 153; similarly Cox, The Triumph of Impotence, 43). As J. Léveêque puts it, “Job makes no appeal to nothingness, to primordial chaos, in order to give himself the Promethean satisfaction of seeing the whole world perish along with himself; rather he appeals to those who could, if required (העתידים), conjure up these forces from the depths. At no time does Job claim to deregulate the creation or reduce the cosmos to the same state of night as his soul experiences at this moment; it should be stressed that his malediction relates only to one particular day and one particular night” (Job et son Dieu [Paris: Gabalda, 1970] 1:336).
It might be, of course, that the skill to rouse Leviathan is only a certificate of competence Job would require of any sorcerer
he would engage to lay spells on a night. But it is perhaps more probable that rousing Leviathan is a second skill that Job would have wished employed on his behalf against the night of his conception. For if the dragon had swallowed up the moon, the night would have belonged unequivocally to the realm of the underworld and conception of a life would have been either impossible or ill-omened.[1]
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My apologies the footnote numbers didn't copy over - a questions of further information please e-mail me at a.beltlines@gmail.com
References:
Rowley Rowley, H. H., Job (NCB; Thomas Nelson & Sons, 1970)
Driver Driver, S. R. Notes on the Hebrew Text and the Topography of the Books of Samuel.*
Dhorme Dhorme, E. Le livre de Job (Paris: Gabalda, 1926), tr. H. Knight, A Commentary on the Book of Job (London: Thomas Nelson & Sons, 1967)
JAOS Journal of the American Oriental Society
TDOT Theological Handwörterbuch zum Alten Testament, ed. E. Jenni and C. Westermann or G. Botterweck adn H. Ringgren (eds.),
Theological Dictionary of the Old Testament (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1974.)
njb New Jerusalem Bible (1985)
i.e. id est, that is
CTA A. Herdner, Corpus des tablettes en cunéiformes alphabétiques
Gibson Gibson, J. C. L., Canannite Myths and Legends (Edinburgh: T. & T. Clark, 1978)
VT Vetus Testamentum
gnb Good News Bible = Today’s English Version
neb The New English Bible
Cox Cox, D., The Triumph of Impotence: Job and the Tradition of the Absurd (Analecta Gregoriana 212; Rome: Università Gregoriana Editrice, 1978)
[1]Clines, D. J. A. (2002). Vol. 17: Word Biblical Commentary : Job 1-20. Word Biblical Commentary (86). Dallas: Word, Incorporated.
Interesting thought. I actually believe the animal existed. In mythology , is that what they refer to as sea serpents? In any case, inspiration sheds some light on the Leviathan as also an actual creature. In the context of creation, PP 50.3 says "With every living creature, from the mighty leviathan that playeth among the waters to the insect mote that floats in the sunbeam, Adam was familiar. He had given to each its name, and he was acquainted with the nature and habits of all. God’s glory in the heavens, the innumerable worlds in their orderly revolutions, “the balancings of the clouds,” the mysteries of light and sound, of day and night—all were open to the study of our first parents." God bless and Happy Sabbath!
Hi Jay - Yes I agree that the use of the Hebrew term Leviathan in both Job 41 and Psalm 104:26 are without dispute references to an animal formed by God during the week of the creation. In these passages Leviathan is most certainly a large sea creature and I would point out that the Leviathan of God’s creation only had one head – this will make sense as you keep reading.
In surveying the OT it is found that the Hebrew term for Leviathan (liwyathan) is only used six times in five passages across three books, Job, Psalms and Isaiah. Job and Psalms each make use of both a literal and a figurative / mythological Leviathan and I would argue that Isaiah’s use us only figurative / mythological.
These authors in referring to the mythological Leviathan of the neighbouring peoples are doing so only to provide a vivid poetic figure of speech. In these usages Leviathan is depicted under the figure of a primeval monster, a creature that symbolizes an anti-divine power, which is eventually concurred by Yahweh.
In the hopes of bringing several Biblical references to Leviathan together let me start by pointing out the Egyptian character of the dragon in Rev. 12:3. This is highlighted by the use of the phrase “a great red dragon” and Rev. 12:9, by the use of the phrase or title “the great dragon” (δράκων ὁ μέγας). The Pharaohnic character of this power can be demonstrated but a very weighty argument but service it to say that both Christ and Moses were set upon as infants by a great empire. John’s point is this system is Rome like Egypt. Also note that it peruses the women into the wilderness as Pharaoh did anciently once the people left Egypt in the Exodus. I’ve a great deal more to say on this but space will not permit. Upon searching this phrase “great dragon” in the LXX we quickly discover that this is a direct allusion to Ezek. 29:3, which speaks of “Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon” (Φαραω τὸν δράκοντα τὸν μέγαν).
Ezek 29:3 “Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon” KJV
Ezek 29:3 “Ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ ἐπὶ Φαραω τὸν δράκοντα τὸν μέγαν”
Only in Ezek. 29:3 among all the OT dragon texts is this title “Great dragon” found and it specifically identifies the Egyptian king Pharaoh. (Cf. Ezek. 32:2-3).
The word “dragon” (Gr. drakon) in the OT is frequently used in reference to Leviathan and Rahab (Rahab is another mythical sea monster). In the OT, these two creatures are used metaphorically in describing the Pharaoh of the Exodus that oppressed Israel and was ultimately defeated by God at the Red Sea. For instance, the
Pharaoh of the Exodus is referred to as Leviathan in Ps.74:13,14 where the psalmist, referring to the exodus deliverance and destruction of the Egyptian army at the Red Sea, speaks of the Lord as breaking “the heads of leviathan in pieces”. An example of Pharaoh of the Exodus being referred to as Rahab is found in Isa. 51:9-10 where the prophet recounts God’s deliverance of His people in ages past and describes God as cutting “Rahab” and “wounding the dragon” at the Red Sea. For poetical usage of Rahab as Egypt cf. Ps. 87:4;89:10; Isa. 30:7). For mythological references cf. Job 9:13; 26:12). The prophets in recounting God’s deliverance of Israel at the Red Sea in ages past serves to remind Israel how-likewise He may deliver them now! God’s mighty acts of salvation in the past become promise of what God can and will do in the future.
In Rev. 12:3 John’s dragon is described as having “seven heads” Interestingly in surveying the OT “dragon” passages we quickly discover the absence of an unequivocal depiction of John’s seven-headed serpent-dragon. What is recognized is that the image of a seven-headed serpent-dragon was a well-known concept in the surrounding nations of the ancient Orient. Ancient Canaanite texts (from Ras Shamrah see Vol. I, pp. 128, 129) speak of a seven-headed monster called “Lotan,” which is believed to be the same name as the Biblical word “leviathan” (Heb. liwyathan). In ancient Canaanite mythology “leviathan” was as a seven-headed serpent
considered to be the personification of the forces of evil and fighting against the forces of right. In the ancient Mesopotamian creation myth there was a tradition of a primeval conflict between the gods and a dragon of chaos. The Talmud also mentions a dragon with seven heads (Ḳiddushin 29b, Soncino ed., p.141).
The OT’s use of the words “Leviathan” and “Rahab” frequently used in connection with the word “dragon” (Gr. drakon) are with some exceptions actually references to these ancient multi-headed mythological figures. Though the OT does not furnish us with an unequivocal depiction of a seven-headed dragon, we do have a reference
to Leviathan in Psalm 74:14 to substantiate the idea that this mythological sea-monster was understood to have been multi-headed. Here the psalmist, referring to God’s deliverance of Israel at the Red Sea, speaks of the Lord as breaking “the heads of leviathan in pieces”. Here the plural “heads” evidently indicates multiple heads though the precise number of heads is not specified.
13 Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads (plural) of the dragons (plural) in the waters.
14 Thou brakest the heads (plural) of leviathan (singular) in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness. KJV
These and other legends among the heathen appear to indicate a confused but prevalent and persistent concept of Satan as a serpent-dragon engaged in a death struggle with the Seed of the woman (Gen. 3:15; cf. Rev. 12:3, 4).` So we discover that the OT uses these two mythological figures (sea monsters) metaphorically to describe the Pharaoh of the Exodus that oppressed Israel and then suffered defeat at the hand of God.
While it is evident that Psalm 74: 14 use of the term Leviathan is a figurative depiction of Pharaoh of the Exodus at the time of the destruction of the Egyptian army at the Red Sea we should also consider that the Psalmist is referring to the multi-headed mythological figure of Leviathan rather than the creature that came forth from the God’s hand. This is evident from the plural word for heads in the phrase “heads of Leviathan”. It might have been the case that the Leviathan of creation served as the source of what would become the mythologized Leviathan but none the less they should be considered distinct with respect to the Biblical references.
Blessings, Beltlines
Thank you for taking the time to explain. God bless!
I had a similar understanding, but could not back it up with such a detailed explanation, this is why I love RBHW so much, we have brethren with such a broad understanding of various subject matters.
Happy Sabbath and thanks for the information. Will certainly look at the material
Questions regarding existence and the age old question that starts with the word "Why" almost always comes from pain, misery, and discouragement. It is a natural response. Have you ever asked those questions? I have. As an unbeliever, I had no answer. To an atheist, life has no meaning. According to them, your ancestors rose from the uncaring soup of chemicals: You live, you laugh, you cry, you die. You are no different than the dog or any other animal for that matter...only farther along in the evolutionary cycle. There is no hope if there is no Creator. Who can break the cycle of birth, life, suffering, and death? I thank God, it is Jesus!!!! Let us celebrate this in our worship today!
Even as a Christian, a believer, It is not sin to be discouraged. It is not sin to wonder why? But it would be sin to curse God and blame Him for all the misery. In this, Job did not sin. Instead, he knew with certainty, that his Redeemer lives and that He would one day rescue him from this "body of death."
For I know that my Redeemer lives,
And He shall stand at last on the earth;
And after my skin is destroyed, this I know,
That in my flesh I shall see God,
Whom I shall see for myself,
And my eyes shall behold, and not another.
How my heart yearns within me! Job 19:25-17
I have often seen, after a disaster or some sort of accident, people asking the question, "Why did God do this?" or "What did God allow this?" Judy and I saw it in the news yesterday. In Job's case, we are allowed to pull back the curtain and see the reasons, but most times we do not. The answers we seek do not come easy and may not come at all this side of heaven. But, we do know that there is evil in this world that is responsible for the misery, the discouragement, the death. Let the blame land where it belongs...The work of Satan our adversary.
But most of all, let us turn our eyes upon Jesus and look into his wonderful face when trouble comes our way. "For we did not follow cunningly devised fables"..2 Peter 1:16. There is purpose to life only as it is found in a relationship with Jesus and his certain promises. "Weeping may endure for a night, But joy comes in the morning." Psalm 30:35
"In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” John 16:33
"lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” Luke 21:28
Happy Sabbath, my friends...Let's spend the day worshipping our great Redeemer and encouraging those who may be having a "Job experience."
Amen Eddie and thank you, very encouraging post. Happy Sabbath to you and Judy
Job's anguish is physical I can feel it but this morning the greatest anguish that ever happened was when one that was once the majesty of heaven lay on that old ragged cross. I can't even imagine the agony in heaven. Just to think that he did it all for me. I can't comprehend the love of God. It is deep. Join me as we sing the song on a hill far away
on a hill far away stood an old rugged cross. The emblem of suffering and shame. And I love that old cross where the dearest and best. For a world of lost sinners was slain
oh that old rugged cross so despised by the world. Has a wonderous attraction for me. For the dear lamb of God left his glory above to bear it to dark Calvary
To the old rugged cross I will ever be true it's shame and reproach gladly bear
So I will cherish that old rugged cross till my trophies at last I lay down. I will cling to that old rugged cross and exchange it someday for a Crown
be blest as we study together
Thank you sister, and amen
Job's friends were sure that he had done something deserving God's punishment... otherwise, why would he be suffering? But God says, "I will be with him in trouble" (Psalm 91). God never says we would have no trouble.
Happy sabbath brethren. I pray for divine understanding of job nfor Thestrength/ serenity of application in my daily life.
Happy Sabbath RBHW family, yes, Job teaches us a lesson to be learned by holding on to God through times of trouble. Though, for me its much easier to 'say' how I should deal with trouble and pain until it actually comes at which time its more difficult to experience the 'dealing'. Dear Heavenly Father, please give me the courage and strength of Job, moreover the courage and strength of our Savior who also dealt with pain and sorrow in that He came upon His own and they received Him not. And please give me the courage and strength to see past my 'licking my wounds' in such difficult times so as to focus on You, In Jesus holy name I pray, amen and amen.
Job's affliction was so severe that death seemed to be the best option. Satan pressed against the servant of God to cause Him to turn his back on Him. This he often does to the faithful servants of God. The prophet Jeremiah, enduring severe affliction for preaching God's Word faithfully, in his suffering spoke words similar to Job. "Cursed be the day in which I was born" (Jer. 20:14). Many of God's servants endured similar trials, but were willing to be "tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection" (Heb 11:35). Some of us may have gone, or are going through severe trial, yet some of have have not. We are reminded in Ecc. 11:8, "if a man lives many years and rejoices in them all, yet let him remember the days of darkness, for they will be many." It does not matter how good this life may seem, the fact remains that there will be many days of darkness in this life. In the dark we need light. May we come to Jesus who is the light to find guidance during these dark days. God bless and have a happy Sabbath.
Luke 22:31 And the Lord said,[c] “Simon, Simon! Indeed, Satan has asked for you, that he may sift you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, that your faith should not fail; and when you have returned to Me, strengthen your brethren.” The comparison between Job and Peter is an eye opener.
1. Satan asks for permission when dealing with children of God. Those that have given their lives Christ.
2. God boastfully trust Job because Job knows whom he believes, Christ has prayed for Peter not to avoid the temptation but to go thru and be victorious.
3. Both Worshiped God, Job got everything back and Peter became a fearless Leader.
The spiritual and human drama that unfolds in our lives is not about us, it is about God our creator. God so loved us such that we are the apple of his eye. And yet we are sinners. While we were sinners Christ died for us, now we have to take our yoke and follow him.